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    Default I Think The BroBucker Will Be Hard To Beat? Hopeful Single Coil Buyer

    Would sure love to see some sought of hotter single coil bridge pickup designed for us straight strat guys in a CS Forum pickup!

    I'm currently liking the Texas Hot A2 Custom with the baseplate off of one of my Twangbangers....Basically I'd love something on the lines of the TB or the Texas Hot Custom bridge,but that it would have more lows and not too much in the mids like the SSL3,but still retain nice note articulation..

    I'm experimenting alot lately with strat bridge single coil pickups...Would be cool to see something on the lines of a Fralin SP 43 pickup or as some of you have mentioned,a tapped hotter version single coil that can be fat but yet also tap to be clear,clean,and vintage articulate?

    I'm just 1 forum member,but will pass this time on another humbucker...I love the BroBucker however and I'm very glad I bought that one!

    Please don't flame me! Just throwing this out there as mentioned already by other members...Maybe on the next CS forum pickup idea?

    I'm thinking on the lines of a beefy vintage style strat bridge single coil that has some jangle but isn't thin and too toppy in the bridge spot....So far the SSL3 and the SSL5 aren't the answer!
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    Default Re: I Think The BroBucker Will Be Hard To Beat

    I kind of agree. It seems like we don't have a focus with this forum pickup unlike the Brobucker which had a specific purpose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PFDarkside View Post
    I kind of agree. It seems like we don't have a focus with this forum pickup unlike the Brobucker which had a specific purpose.
    And I'm not trying to start a forum flame war or anything....Just seems we did it right with the Brobucker,as it's the perfect match between vintage and modern.plus it grinds,but is also sweet and clear in the note clarity...I'd personally not see a need for a pickup(in my case)over 10k....But: That's just me,but I don't want to get beat up on this guys...I just would have to pass this time and that's cool also!

    Just throwing some ideas out for a future strat pickup...There are alot of single coil playing strat guys out there!
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    Default Re: I Think The BroBucker Will Be Hard To Beat

    Quote Originally Posted by STRATDELUXER97 View Post
    And I'm not trying to start a forum flame war or anything....Just seems we did it right with the Brobucker,as it's the perfect match between vintage and modern.plus it grinds,but is also sweet and clear in the note clarity...I'd personally not see a need for a pickup(in my case)over 10k....But: That's just me,but I don't want to get beat up on this guys...I just would have to pass this time and that's cool also!

    Just throwing some ideas out for a future strat pickup...There are alot of single coil playing strat guys out there!

    wow, I couldn't agree more. there is an old saying about "too many cooks spoils the stew". I think the Brobucker was done right, but I remember the powers that be expressing concern that a culmination of a bunch of different ideas would result in a pup that was basically crap. I believe that is what will be the result this year. It is too bad.

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    Default Re: I Think The BroBucker Will Be Hard To Beat

    John, I'm completely on board with you. I think the Brobucker was a great addition to the already vast choices available from Duncan. I'm playing an 11K A2 single coil bridge with a baseplate too and its been my favorite so far. I'd love to hear what MJ or Seymour could come up with along these lines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kjrocks View Post
    John, I'm completely on board with you. I think the Brobucker was a great addition to the already vast choices available from Duncan. I'm playing an 11K A2 single coil bridge with a baseplate too and its been my favorite so far. I'd love to hear what MJ or Seymour could come up with along these lines.
    Glad to see I'm not all alone on this...I'm a single coil guy pretty much and though I do also love my Gibson humbucker instruments,I feel like I can convey more of my style with single coils and speak better with these pickups....I mean I Love humbuckers for all out grinding stuff,but all of that SRV type stuff is done with single coils..Maybe it's just a style thing with me? Again,nothing against humbuckers.I use em also but I feel that single coils give me more tonal versatility all night..

    I normally find the humbuckers to be easier to match up but single coils are harder since they tend to be brighter and thinner sounding...
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    Default Re: I Think The BroBucker Will Be Hard To Beat

    I'm with ya John. I have zero interest in a hot humbucking pickup. I was hoping for a bridge single coil myself since alot of people are always searching for a full, fat sounding single coil. And it would have given me a reason to buy a Strat! ( or Tele)

    BTW, have you seen the 'Strat and Pearly Gate Sound' pickup in the Custom Shop section? I thought that might have been an interesting way to go to get a discount on.
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    Default Re: I Think The BroBucker Will Be Hard To Beat

    I'm with ya. A new breed of single coil for Duncan sounds great idea. Something that can be tapped and have two completely different personalities sounds awesome.

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    Default Re: I Think The BroBucker Will Be Hard To Beat

    I've been cry'in for a CS Single coil myself. There is a reason I own 3 Stratocasters ,And only 1 of others. (When in doubt...Bring a Strat)
    The Twangbanger fills just about all my needs for a bridge PuP (Other then using a Bucker) In a S-S-S combo I use the Neck PuP about 75% of the time.
    The APS-2 and SSL-1 have severed me well thus far, But the APS can get a Lil' muddy on the wound string. The SSL can be a Lil' bright in some amps. (i.e. a late 80's 2203) I know Duncan offers the 5/2 PuP. This is on my roundtuit list of next PuPs to buy. I was thinking something like a surfer 5/2 would be the Ultimate neck Single coil. IDUNNO?

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    Default Re: I Think The BroBucker Will Be Hard To Beat

    I agree with the above...I'm pretty much a single coil guy too. Majority rules and I respect that, but I must admit to being a bit disappointed that the new Forum pickup is going to be another humbucker. I'm building a Strat right now and am going to put Surfers in the neck and middle, and I'm up in the air about the bridge, a great Forum Strat bridge pickup would be perfect. Oh well, I guess it's a humbucker world. Well, I guess it's nice to be part of the minority who actually know good tone! (Don't freak humbucker guys, it's a joke)

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    i know there will be a strat in my future of guitar playing so i'm down to vote singles next time if(hopefully) there will be a next time. right now though i don't have the funds to justify a strat project the way i want it done so i went with the more immediately useable option. i wonder how much demand has to be present before the customshop can do a group order. i know i've heard of a photography forum where enough people got together and i forget if they kept a product line of a certain film product from going under or brought it back from being discontinued, but the demand was focused enough that it worked out for everybody. anyways i'm just glad the internet is the way it is where good stuff like this happens, where in a normal marketplace things like this would be utterly impossible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeRocker View Post
    I agree with the above...I'm pretty much a single coil guy too. Majority rules and I respect that, but I must admit to being a bit disappointed that the new Forum pickup is going to be another humbucker. I'm building a Strat right now and am going to put Surfers in the neck and middle, and I'm up in the air about the bridge, a great Forum Strat bridge pickup would be perfect. Oh well, I guess it's a humbucker world. Well, I guess it's nice to be part of the minority who actually know good tone! (Don't freak humbucker guys, it's a joke)
    I've been thinking that it would be cool if SD did this "Forum Pickup" every year, from now on. I'm sort of suggesting that we call them something like F1 Brobucker, F2 'new high output humbucker', F3 'Powerful strat bridge', and so on.
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    Default Re: I Think The BroBucker Will Be Hard To Beat

    I wanted a CS mini-bucker or P90, but I realize those are two very limited markets. I don't have any single coil guitars besides my Tele, and likely won't for a while (my Tele is quite possibly the most inspiring guitar I've ever played - just inspires me to play). No other single coil guitar can top it, at least none that I've seen.

    Regardless, I agree with you guys that we don't need another bucker. It shoulda been something else.

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    Default Re: I Think The BroBucker Will Be Hard To Beat

    I did say eariler... I would not mind a single coil strat or a singlr coil tele forum pup.
    I honestly dont want super high output pup humbucker I dont even want one around 14k as we do have a nice range in the customs in that.

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    Default Re: I Think The BroBucker Will Be Hard To Beat

    +1 here.

    Products solve problems... just experimenting with something to see how it comes out - I'm not sure I have the money for it.

    If there's something we don't have enough of is good Strat bridge single coils- something around 10 k optional base plates as an option (it's something many of us can install by ourselves or add a few bucks if you radicaly don't want any work on the pup).
    Richie Blackmore, Brian May, David Gilmour a bridge pup that can take us somewhere near their SC bridge tones... (you choose which one you like better).
    Dimarzio got their line of higher output SC, like the Solo and Solo Pro, but they all have the ugly mids that sound like they leave no air, they are also hum canceling pups that need 500k pots...
    I think that the custom shop can produce the bridge pup for Strats that would make sll Strat fans very, very happy.

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    Default Re: I Think The BroBucker Will Be Hard To Beat

    I certainly agree with all of the sentiments here! But lets face it, most of the bros here are younger, they play harder music, and they prefer humbuckers.
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    Default Re: I Think The BroBucker Will Be Hard To Beat

    Quote Originally Posted by STRATDELUXER97 View Post
    Would sure love to see some sought of hotter single coil bridge pickup designed for us straight strat guys in a CS Forum pickup!

    I'm currently liking the Texas Hot A2 Custom with the baseplate off of one of my Twangbangers....Basically I'd love something on the lines of the TB or the Texas Hot Custom bridge,but that it would have more lows and not too much in the mids like the SSL3,but still retain nice note articulation..

    I'm experimenting alot lately with strat bridge single coil pickups...Would be cool to see something on the lines of a Fralin SP 43 pickup or as some of you have mentioned,a tapped hotter version single coil that can be fat but yet also tap to be clear,clean,and vintage articulate?

    I'm just 1 forum member,but will pass this time on another humbucker...I love the BroBucker however and I'm very glad I bought that one!

    Please don't flame me! Just throwing this out there as mentioned already by other members...Maybe on the next CS forum pickup idea?

    I'm thinking on the lines of a beefy vintage style strat bridge single coil that has some jangle but isn't thin and too toppy in the bridge spot....So far the SSL3 and the SSL5 aren't the answer!
    Great idea John. Where is the strat love?

    The Texas Hot Custom Bridge is already an awesome strat pickup. but it doesn't have the jangle.

    Does the Surfer Bridge have jangle?

    A beefy strat pickup with jangle....I'm no expert. But, I think jangle comes with a more vintage winding. Hot winds lose the jangle.

    I think I'd like a tapped strat bridge such that I could toggle between 10k/6K.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar Toad View Post
    Great idea John. Where is the strat love?

    The Texas Hot Custom Bridge is already an awesome strat pickup. but it doesn't have the jangle.

    Does the Surfer Bridge have jangle?

    A beefy strat pickup with jangle....I'm no expert. But, I think jangle comes with a more vintage winding. Hot winds lose the jangle.

    I think I'd like a tapped strat bridge such that I could toggle between 10k/6K.
    I'm looking for that very fine line between vintage and beefier....Problem I have,is that when you get hotter,you also get more mids...I like the top end jangle but crave alot more fullness in the lows,but I Like the mids to stay back like a vintage pickup...I think the baseplate I added to the A2 Texas Hot Custom actually may have added a bit more mids..The SSL3 that Artie let me borrow was too middy and not articulate enough on the notes,but it had balls for sure....The SSL5 and 6 has a bit too much mids and the lows aren't strong enough....So you guys can relate to what I'd want in a perfect strat bridge pickup....

    Basically a fatter sounding bridge pickup,but cleans up and thins out a bit as you roll volume off...Not necessarily tapped,but beautiful...

    The Texas Hot A2 Custom with the baseplate is pretty close to perfect and I Like it,but it was a pain to make and I thought I'd screw up my Antiquity pickup in the process..
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    Quote Originally Posted by STRATDELUXER97 View Post
    The Texas Hot A2 Custom with the baseplate is pretty close to perfect and I Like it,but it was a pain to make and I thought I'd screw up my Antiquity pickup in the process..

    We even have an idea for a basic design

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzerlbn View Post
    We even have an idea for a basic design
    I'd like to throw something in the pot here that might add some of those a5 qualities that most of us like into the equation -- what about a Texas hot custom tapped with an 5/2 magnet configuration? It wouldn't have to be a straight 3 a5 and 3 a2, but put the magnets where they would get the qualities that we are looking for. I would think the a5 would mean we wouldn't need a bassplate because of the bigger lows.

    This is what this new custom shop humbucker needed. An idea or a need that wasn't present in the Duncan line. That would have united us. Lets keep these ideas in mind if this opportunity presents itself again.
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