Help needed with 5 way Telecaster wiring

[donprior]

Hi - I have just purchased a vintage stack for my Telecaster neck pick up and have a standard tele bridge pick up. I want to use a standard 5 way switch and split the humbucker to get different sounds.
1 Full humbucker (neck)
2 Split humbucker (neck)
3 humbucker (neck) & bridge
4 split humbucker (neck) & bridge
5 Bridge.
This not have to be in the exact switching order as above.
Has anyone got a sound wiring schematic for this?

[stevie_bees]

Welcome aboard. I'm certain someone will have the perfect diagram for you. Here's one you could base your wiring on. Obviously your bucker is in the neck!!
http://www.seymourduncan.com/support...tele_5way.html

[stevie_bees]

IIRC, you get full bridge, full bridge and neck, neck, tapped bridge and neck, and tapped bridge with that wiring.

[metlking]

Take a look at these, they're from a US Fat Telecaster with a full sized bucker in the neck, just replace with your stacked coils......looks like the switch is a Fender "5 Way Super Switch " if I'm not mistaken, using half of it.....

http://www.fender.com/support/diagra...118000CPg4.pdf

http://www.fender.com/support/diagra...108000BPg2.pdf

I did some research on the switch you need as I don't beleive a double waffer "super switch" fits into the cavity on a Tele.....I have a HS Tele with a 3 way switch, you got me thinking about expanding some tonal possiblities!

From another forum: The "half-Superswitch" (my name, not theirs) is a single-wafer double-pole 5-way switch, with five switchable lugs per pole. It's available from WD Music (part #WDE5DL), Acme Guitar Works (SKU: 003-9003-000) or perhaps you could get one from Fender (part # 0039003000). It's a twelve-lug/two-pole monster, only seen it in a couple of Fender's non-standard Teles, like the James Burton Upgraded Tele...

Looks like this one would do the trick: http://www.acmeguitarworks.com/Singl...k__P402C10.cfm

[ArtieToo]

Edit: Nevermind. I just realized that I drew essentially the same thing Stevie posted in the second post.

[donprior]

Edit: Nevermind. I just realized that I drew essentially the same thing Stevie posted in the second post.

can you put that back up it as not the same

[ArtieToo]

Sorry Don. I just deleted it. I could re-do it, but the only difference was that I had the bridge hot wire on the opposite side of the switch. There's no need to do that.

Edit: I was able to undelete it since it hadn't been over-written yet.



Note: Move the bridge hot wire to the other side of the switch. (The unused middle lug.) There's no need to mess with both sides of the switch.

[ArtieToo]

Btw: Let me explain my rational for using the unusual neck wiring. Normally, when Seymour Duncan splits a stack, they ground the red/white wires. That will select a specific portion of the stack. I don't know whether its the top or bottom of the stack, but I assume they select it for a reason.

In this configuration, we're shorting to the "hot" side, so we need to alter the wiring slightly so that we still select that same portion of the stack.

[donprior]

Btw: Let me explain my rational for using the unusual neck wiring. Normally, when Seymour Duncan splits a stack, they ground the red/white wires. That will select a specific portion of the stack. I don't know whether its the top or bottom of the stack, but I assume they select it for a reason.

In this configuration, we're shorting to the "hot" side, so we need to alter the wiring slightly so that we still select that same portion of the stack.

Thanks Artie - works great
Don

[ArtieToo]

Cool.

Btw: What does a stack sound like when split? I've never actually heard one. (Split, that is.)

[octavedoctor]

Cool.

Btw: What does a stack sound like when split? I've never actually heard one. (Split, that is.)

Sounds like a single coil...

The Brian May guitars used to use the top half of a DiMarzio stack and they actually sounded pretty cool, but i wouldn't normally split a stack unless i wanted to keep noise cancellation in a circuit with another single coil.

[ArtieToo]

Thanks Doc. Part of the reason I was asking is that that two stacks I've had, (Classic and Hot), weren't that strong to begin with. I was curious as to how much output you'ld lose in split mode.

[octavedoctor]

You'll lose a bit of output, but with a stack the lower coil is more of a passenger and doesn't contribute as much to the signal as partner coils in a full humbucker. Some stacks, such as the Kinmans can't be split. I've never used a Seymour stack so I don't know whether they have 4con cable but the DiMarzios have four discrete wires (how dumb is that on a noise cancelling pickup??) and the best option for tone variance is to go series/parallel as this drops the global impedance by a factor of four, changing the whole resonant characteristic of the circuit while keeping noise cancellation and eliminating the mutual "choke" effect of coils in series...