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    Default How is Rickenbacker still in business

    Every guitar I've played by them is way too bright even for me. Honestly, I don't see how they could stay in business with the guitars they offer. They have no product diversity at all. Mephis, we know you like yours. You don't need to rip me apart because I have an opinion. Thank you

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    Every Ric I have had to work on or talk with others that have had to work on them consistently agree that the Engineering of them is exactly the kind of evidence that would mandate someone being taken out and shot for thinking it was a good idea.

    Tone-wise I can understand the appeal...but largely I think it's the result of the early days where formidable recordings were made using them and it became ingrained. Most of the go-to classic axes and gear are that way. But I think the engineering in the Rics is just god-awful idea on top of god-awful idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skarekrough View Post
    Every Ric I have had to work on or talk with others that have had to work on them consistently agree that the Engineering of them is exactly the kind of evidence that would mandate someone being taken out and shot for thinking it was a good idea.

    Tone-wise I can understand the appeal...but largely I think it's the result of the early days where formidable recordings were made using them and it became ingrained. Most of the go-to classic axes and gear are that way. But I think the engineering in the Rics is just god-awful idea on top of god-awful idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skarekrough View Post
    Every Ric I have had to work on or talk with others that have had to work on them consistently agree that the Engineering of them is exactly the kind of evidence that would mandate someone being taken out and shot for thinking it was a good idea.

    Tone-wise I can understand the appeal...but largely I think it's the result of the early days where formidable recordings were made using them and it became ingrained. Most of the go-to classic axes and gear are that way. But I think the engineering in the Rics is just god-awful idea on top of god-awful idea.
    That's all true for their guitars, but their basses are pretty sweet. Maybe the bass players are keeping them alive?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GuitarStv View Post
    That's all true for their guitars, but their basses are pretty sweet. Maybe the bass players are keeping them alive?
    Hmmmm, I had forgotten about their 400* basses


    Those are some pretty good basses.

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    I thought the exact thing about Chevrolet when I drove my first German car...

    Rickenbacker is supposedly back-ordered over a year. Go figure...

    For that matter, why is Ovation still around? Because they float?

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    Not to mention their customer service.... as in what's that????
    Yes, I am seeing a professional about the GAS... he's wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuitarSandwich View Post
    I thought the exact thing about Chevrolet when I drove my first German car...

    Rickenbacker is supposedly back-ordered over a year. Go figure...

    For that matter, why is Ovation still around? Because they float?
    Ovation has their niche....or, at least they did.

    At one point in time they were the go-to axe for playing acoustic in a live setting. The only alternatives were micing up, which means less movement, or any number of the shoddier aftermarket companies that made internal hardware.

    Now everyone seems to make a decent amplified acoustic. Alot of folks still seem to like them though, or at least they still have them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuitarSandwich View Post
    I thought the exact thing about Chevrolet when I drove my first German car...

    Rickenbacker is supposedly back-ordered over a year. Go figure...

    For that matter, why is Ovation still around? Because they float?
    Lol yeah. Popular with pirates I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cream123 View Post
    Hmmmm, I had forgotten about their 400* basses


    Those are some pretty good basses.
    No they are not.

    I never understood them at all. Strange playing and sounding guitars all the way around IMO. It's amazing what the Beatles playing your guitars can do for you as a company.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuitarStv View Post
    That's all true for their guitars, but their basses are pretty sweet. Maybe the bass players are keeping them alive?
    Their basses are just as bad.

    Seriously....if Fender and every other company could get it done with one truss rod in the 50's then you've obviously managed to screw something up past a point where you should be taking the schematics out to the back porch, putting them in the cigarette butt bucket and setting them on fire.

    I also think their basses sound terrible. But that's a personal thing.

    Every bass player I know goes through a "Ric phase" where they think they're the end-all be-all and lust for one, finally get it, use it on EVERYTHING, fight to keep it up and running and then unload it because it's too high maintenance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skarekrough View Post
    Every Ric I have had to work on or talk with others that have had to work on them consistently agree that the Engineering of them is exactly the kind of evidence that would mandate someone being taken out and shot for thinking it was a good idea.
    Sounds like a Bigsby LOL!

    A Bigsby and a Ric would me a match made in........I dont know, that would suck! LOL!

    I am sure some jagoff on here would die for a Ric with a Bigsby on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theodie View Post
    Sounds like a Bigsby LOL!

    A Bigsby and a Ric would me a match made in........I dont know, that would suck! LOL!

    I am sure some jagoff on here would die for a Ric with a Bigsby on it.
    If I have learned anything being on here it's that if you can think of the most god-awful idea for any sum of parts and components together in one place at one time someone will chime in with a weird "Build Your Own Axe" graphic program output that's exactly the abomonation you mentioned and refer to it as their "dream guitar."

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    Quote Originally Posted by theodie View Post
    Sounds like a Bigsby LOL!

    A Bigsby and a Ric would me a match made in........I dont know, that would suck! LOL!

    I am sure some jagoff on here would die for a Ric with a Bigsby on it.

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    My love of Lemmy and Motorhead keep me digging Ric basses.

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    I would love to find a White Rickenbacker bass- just like Rick James's bass in the Superfreak video

    not to mention Cliff Burton used them in the beginning

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    I got my 72-74 Rick 4001 in 1988.

    It was awesome. Mapleglo finish, similar enough to McCartney's and Lemmy's.

    It had a clubby neck. The neck was sticky. The binding cut into my wrist/forearm. The bridge had these set screws that would tear up your hand if you ran it by the bridge.

    On top of all the other things about it- it sounded crappy. I had at least 5 different bass rigs during the time I had the Rick- all were pretty good rigs. That Rick never sounded good, no matter what EQ I used, no matter what style. No matter what.

    I just found out within the past few years, a few of my favorite "Rick" bass tones were done with a Jazz Bass anyway. (McCartney's White Album and Geddy Lee's Moving Pictures tones)

    I let a dude use my bass, and he made it sound good. Maybe it's just me.

    I kept the bass for 6 years, just hoping I'd grow into it or something. I never did. To this day, I still think they're "cool" basses- but whenever I see one I like, as soon as I pick it up I remember how "not for me" they really are.
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    I had two of them back in the 70s... trying to cop that "YES" tone from "roundabout" or whatever. Marshalls, Sunn, SVT, Acoustic 370, Fender, Orange, Hiwatt, JBL PA cabs with Crown power... nothing I used made those things sound right. I was determined to make it work because they LOOKED so good. Finally gave up and went back to Fenders.

    Just goes to show how much money is wasted on fashion.

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    Well, they look cool. And that's pretty much all that matters.

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