little 59s

[Bender]

Hi guys, ( and girls if any )
I've just installed a little 59 in bridge on a 62 reissue Strat with Texas Specials in mid and neck position.
My first problem was ( I think ) the pup was out of phase.
When I changed pup selector switch from bridge position to second (for bridge and mid pup together I lost a lot of volume and tone was like a bridge pup on a Tele. Why to much treble for a Strat.
A guy told me to switch the hot and ground wires on the 59 to put everything in phase.
Worked beautifully , I swapped the green and black and everything fell in place . I should mention here I wired the pup series/split/series parallel.
However, now if selector switch is in bridge position and the volume push/pull knob is pulled I loose all sound in this position only..If selector switch is moved to second place ( for bridge and mid ) my sound comes back.
Any suggestions ?

[DazH]

the push pull is probably incorrectly wired (or maybe the output from it) check that your connections are correct & tidy mate.

series/split/parralel aint half fiddly.

[Bender]

went by the wiring diagram provided with the pups..... ?
Thing is other than the loss of volume and outrageous tone on bridge and mid position it worked before I swapped the ground and hot on the pup.
It seems I'm losing one coil when the push/pull is pulled when in bridge position.

[hamerfan]

Short hint: if you take a screwdriver and hit lightly on the poles of the pickup you can hear by the pop which one is working!

[DazH]

Hang on, you wired series/split/parrallel to a push-pull? unless i've missunderstood you, that's impossible without a 3way switch.

How do you have it wired? i.e what operates the special functions.

[Bender]

I'll have the wiring diagram shortly.. if I can figure out how to post it here
I'm using a double pole double throw switch

[Bender]

correct me if I'm wrong on this .

If the pup selector switch is in bridge position
and the knob is not pulled I should be using both coils
when the knob is pulled it should switch to the opposite and be using only one coil.
Of course it could be just opposite on push/pull depending on the wiring
but either way I should be getting something when the knob is pulled.
correct ?

[DazH]

Indeed, Wired as simply as:

http://www.seymourduncan.com/support...splitting.html

You mention it's a switch:

this is an ON/ON switch? (humbucker/split)
and not an ON/OFF (humbucker/no output)

just to make sure, hehe.

[Bender]

10-4 to on/on

[Bender]

DazH,
thanks fer sure for the link.
ok, I'm looking at the wiring diagram that came with the pup..
I've wired for series/split/parallel to an on/on push/pull switch
however, due to the undesired tone when pup selector was in second position ( bridge and mid ) I swapped the green and black wires to supposedly correct phasing problem. hence, no output when pup selector went back to bridge position and knob is pulled.

I checked out the link. I'm not wired as such. I realize the picture is for the pup shown and not used when wiring up for multiple coils.. At least not like the diagram I have.
It just seems odd that the thing was working until I swapped the black and green..
Man, I tell ya....just about to drive the bender bent

[DazH]

you cant wire for series/split/parallel to an on/on is why mate.

series(1)/split(2)/parallel(3)

you have ON(1)/ON(2)

wire up like the link I posted previously and it will work fine mate, you wont be able to use series/split/parallel unless you use an ON/ON/ON mini switch.

Edit: if it's out of phase, swap the wires, but wire them as the link I posted is (though obviously imagining one colour is another)

[Bender]

Lawdy Lawdy Lawdy,,,,, Man, is says exactly that on the diagram......I overlooked it....on/on/on = 3
I been bangin my head on this thing for 4 days and all it takes is some input from you ( and looking a little closer at the schematic ) to catch it .
Many thanks indeed ...
will go back and rewire as shown ..........

[ArtieToo]

Hi Bender; The way you wire the switch is exactly the same regardless of whether you have an on-on or an on-on-on. The only difference is, with the push-pull, you simply lose one function. The wiring is identical.

The problem is . . . you probably wired up the switch first, then reversed the black and green later. That means you now have the white shorting to black and the red shorting to green . . . killing both coils.

You need to also reverse red and white on that switch in order to bring things back to copacetic.

BTW - this will give you series/split.

[Bender]

to be honest that was my next question.......
Thanks a million guys been bucking this thing far to long .......
I tell ya ,, I've gotten more direct answers in this thread today than almost a week in another forum on a different site...
Thanks again,, Hope I can do the same for someone in need someday......

[DazH]

Hehe, for future refference artie = wiring king.

He taught me / helped me teach myself lots in a single thread:

http://www.seymourduncan.com/forum/s...41#post1325841

[Bender]

ya know how some folks just can't quit with the questions... I'm not by nature one of them but........... Will the phasing still be ok ?

[ArtieToo]

Hehe, for future refference artie = wiring king.

You're too kind.

ya know how some folks just can't quit with the questions... I'm not by nature one of them but........... Will the phasing still be ok ?

Yes, the phasing will be unaffected. You want to make sure that the white wire terminal corresponds to the green wire terminal, and the red wire terminal corresponds to the black wire terminal. Doesn't matter which side of the switch either pair is on.

[Bender]

Guys,
Again thanks for ALL the input .
I swapped the wiring and I gotta tell ya....... Unbelieve--able
It's like a whole other axe,, hehe, even seems to play better

Bender
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Beware the Fury of a patient man..

[DazH]

Glad it worked out for you mate, enjoy it.