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    Hi,
    I've been working on a Fender Jag-stang for a friend and have re-wired his pick-ups for a different switching system. I'm sure the wiring is OK as everything buzzes out OK and they work, it's just that I'm not so sure about the sound. They sound dull compared to my American Telecaster Custom (70's model with stock pups).

    The PUPs installed are:
    Bridge: JB SH4
    Neck: SSL5 Custom 5 Staggered

    I just wanted to canvas opinion on what they should sound like as I'm feeling a bit paranoid. Stupidly, I didn't listen to the guitar through an amp before I re-wired so I deserve all the ribbing I get for that.

    BTW I measured the DC resistance into the output jack for different switching combinations and it all measures OK. I even tried removing the tone cap but it doesn't seem to affect the sound much compared to when it is fitted with tone set at max (as I would expect).

    <edit> and the volume pot is 250K (tone pot is 500K with 47n) <edit>

    Thanks,
    Dave.
    Last edited by davebungo; 05-06-2008 at 12:29 PM.

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    Maybe it sounded the same before the re-wire?
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    Default Re: Pick-up sound - probably silly question

    You might not like the way the 250k pot shunts highs to ground in that particular guitar. Try a 500k in both slots. If it's still dark, going to a .022mfd cap and 50's style wiring would help.
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    dont forget that jag stangs are made out of basswood and not alder...

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    Weren't the Jazzmaster and Jaguar supposed to have 1Meg pots?
    Maybe that's part of the reason?
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    Default Re: Pick-up sound - probably silly question

    Thanks for your help.

    The guitar sounds bright enough when played acoustically, so I'm thinking that perhaps the 250K pot is a problem.

    BTW what is "50's style wiring"? Do you mean non screened cable i.e. less cable capacitance?

    Thanks,
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    A Tele is a naturally bright and twangy instrument. The Jag has a humbucker and a hot over wound single. If the amp is EQ'ed for your Tele, its reasonable that it would sound duller when you switch to the Jag. Try playing with the EQ a bit.

    The 50's wiring just means hooking the tone control to the middle lug, (output), of the volume pot instead of the input lug. It won't make any difference when the volume is on "10", but restores a little treble as you roll the volume back.

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    Default Re: Pick-up sound - probably silly question

    Quote Originally Posted by ArtieToo View Post
    A Tele is a naturally bright and twangy instrument. The Jag has a humbucker and a hot over wound single. If the amp is EQ'ed for your Tele, its reasonable that it would sound duller when you switch to the Jag. Try playing with the EQ a bit.

    The 50's wiring just means hooking the tone control to the middle lug, (output), of the volume pot instead of the input lug. It won't make any difference when the volume is on "10", but restores a little treble as you roll the volume back.
    Thanks for that. It's re-assuring. I think I'll get the opinion of the owner and if he thinks it's OK then great otherwise I might try the 500K pot option. I did notice a comment in the info for the SH4 that some players use 250K volume to tame the highs so I'm now fairly sure that this is what I've experienced.

    The other thing is that I once played my old Tele Custom against a new Mexican Standard and there was simply no comparison in terms of strength of output so I guess my Tele may be a particularly hot example.

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