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    Default Wiring: 2 humbuckers, 5 way super switch

    OK, I have been looking for some wiring diagrams, but if anyone has any ideas, this is what I want to do:

    2 humbuckers, single master volume, single master tone- 1 5 way super switch

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    1: full neck HB
    2: neck coils of both HB (hum cancelling)
    3: both HB
    4: bridge coils of both HB (hum cancelling)
    5: full bridge HB

    Basically, I want to mimic some stratty sounds with a 2 HB guitar.

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    Default Re: Wiring: 2 humbuckers, 5 way super switch

    This diagram will almost get you what you're looking for. Position 3 will one coil from each humbucker combined in series:

    http://www.schecterguitars.com/index.asp

    All positions are hum cancelling. Good luck! If you know where to get a high quality superswitch please let me know. I never seem to get more than a year out of one.

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    Default Re: Wiring: 2 humbuckers, 5 way super switch

    Is there any reason why you want both north and both south coils?

    I have an RG520 that i wired to get the inner and outer coils in pos 2 and 4. I can get stratty and telly this way.

    Are you talking about a 4pole 5 way switch?

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    Default Re: Wiring: 2 humbuckers, 5 way super switch

    Here is the diagram for the inner/outer coils in the 2 and 4 position:

    http://www.dimarzio.com//media/diagrams/E.pdf

    I have this wiring in a guitar with a superdistortion/PAF Pro combo and I like it a lot.

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    Default Re: Wiring: 2 humbuckers, 5 way super switch

    Quote Originally Posted by iron_iguana View Post
    Here is the diagram for the inner/outer coils in the 2 and 4 position:

    http://www.dimarzio.com//media/diagrams/E.pdf

    I have this wiring in a guitar with a superdistortion/PAF Pro combo and I like it a lot.
    You probably already know this, but keep in mind those are DMZ colors. Duncans and Ibby's would wire up differently. Same concept - different colors.

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    Default Re: Wiring: 2 humbuckers, 5 way super switch

    this is close, but was hoping instead of inside coils on position 4/outside coils on position 2 in parallel (I think the volume loss would be too great with an APH and CC)..i may try this if I can't find what i was looking for first.

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    Default Re: Wiring: 2 humbuckers, 5 way super switch

    If you don't mind doing a mag flip on one pup, you can make both of those options noise-cancelling also. I'll show you the wiring diagram if you decide to go that route.

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    Default Re: Wiring: 2 humbuckers, 5 way super switch

    i may try that, Artie, so send away!! Thanks!

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    Default Re: Wiring: 2 humbuckers, 5 way super switch

    Like this:

    super5way.jpg

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    Default Re: Wiring: 2 humbuckers, 5 way super switch

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    Default Re: Wiring: 2 humbuckers, 5 way super switch

    now im confused a bit...first, my goal from this is to have positions 2 & 4 humcancelling, but still stratty sounding.

    i guess really, it isn't so important which coils are actually on, as long as position 2 & 4 are hum cancelling. My guess is that they would need to be in parallel to sound 'stratty', but the volume drop is what I am worried about. how low we talkin' bout?

    so, without a magnet flip, and changing the colors to SD colors, iguana's diagram may work providing the volume loss isn't terrible in positions 2 & 4.

    With a magnet flip, I am guessing Artie's diagram will work, but it doesn't show what exactly happens on each position of the switch, or if the split coils are series or parallel.

    Is there a book or site out there that explains basic guitar electronics? I'd love to be able to just look at the switch and figure it out. Ive wired many guitars before, but just from diagrams, never from 'just knowing' what is going on.

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    Default Re: Wiring: 2 humbuckers, 5 way super switch

    On my diagram, they're in parallel. Most diagrams will be. The only reason to do the magnet swap is if you want inner and/or outer and have them both remain hum-cancelling. You could do, bridge-stud/neck-screw and vice-versa and wire them up as normal, with no mag flip, and achieve the same thing.

    It will change the wiring of that diagram slightly.

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    Default Re: Wiring: 2 humbuckers, 5 way super switch

    There is a slight volume drop but it isn't drastic. I like the 2 & 4 positions when I am going clean and usually do the full HB's for the distortions. Makes for a pretty versatile guitar.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mincer View Post
    now im confused a bit...first, my goal from this is to have positions 2 & 4 humcancelling, but still stratty sounding.

    i guess really, it isn't so important which coils are actually on, as long as position 2 & 4 are hum cancelling. My guess is that they would need to be in parallel to sound 'stratty', but the volume drop is what I am worried about. how low we talkin' bout?

    so, without a magnet flip, and changing the colors to SD colors, iguana's diagram may work providing the volume loss isn't terrible in positions 2 & 4.

    With a magnet flip, I am guessing Artie's diagram will work, but it doesn't show what exactly happens on each position of the switch, or if the split coils are series or parallel.

    Is there a book or site out there that explains basic guitar electronics? I'd love to be able to just look at the switch and figure it out. Ive wired many guitars before, but just from diagrams, never from 'just knowing' what is going on.

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    Default Re: Wiring: 2 humbuckers, 5 way super switch

    Quote Originally Posted by ArtieToo View Post
    On my diagram, they're in parallel. Most diagrams will be. The only reason to do the magnet swap is if you want inner and/or outer and have them both remain hum-cancelling. You could do, bridge-stud/neck-screw and vice-versa and wire them up as normal, with no mag flip, and achieve the same thing.

    It will change the wiring of that diagram slightly.
    Actually, flipping the magnet doesn't seem too hard, in fact, I think I have done it before. From what I remember, you just slide it out and flip it side to side, so the top facing the coils is now facing the bottom plate, right? And the short ends are still on the same sides, just upside down (if that makes sense)?
    And, can you flip the magnet in either pickup? Does it have to be the neck?

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    Default Re: Wiring: 2 humbuckers, 5 way super switch

    Quote Originally Posted by Mincer View Post
    Actually, flipping the magnet doesn't seem too hard, in fact, I think I have done it before. From what I remember, you just slide it out and flip it side to side, so the top facing the coils is now facing the bottom plate, right? And the short ends are still on the same sides, just upside down (if that makes sense)?
    And, can you flip the magnet in either pickup? Does it have to be the neck?
    Exactly. Then, whichever pup you flip the mag on, wire like this:



    Short black and green to ground to split to the stud coil, which will be in-phase and hum-cancelling with the other stud coil. Short the black/green to white to split to the screw coil. (On the other pickup, short red/white to black.)

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