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    I've heard that the JB Trembucker, maybe all trembuckers in general, have a different output than that from the corresponding regular pickup. I've read that they have more bass and lower frequencies to compensate for the floating tremolo. is there any truth to this? and if so, would blocking the tremolo have an impact on it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warheart
    I've heard that the JB Trembucker, maybe all trembuckers in general, have a different output than that from the corresponding regular pickup. I've read that they have more bass and lower frequencies to compensate for the floating tremolo. is there any truth to this? and if so, would blocking the tremolo have an impact on it?
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    I haven't noticed that being the case...more bass I mean. I use 59 Trembuckers on both of my Strats that have a bridge humbucker. Blocking the tremolo probably does change the tone but although I do block the trems on some of my Strats I do it so they play in tune and so I can bend one note up while holding another note that stays the same. Kinda like a pedal steel might do. Haven't noticed a dramatic change in the tone itself tho it does seems to sound more "solid" and less shaky or trembly. Lew

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    Default Re: JB Trembucker

    I use both (Trem and reg) JB's and I agree with Lew, don't notice any difference. So maybe if THERE IS a difference, it does the job correctly and compensates for the tremelo like it should!!!!

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    I disagree,

    I know Duncan says that trem spaced pickups have a little more beef to make up for the thinness of floyd type trems. But I think that was an afterthought after putting the same number of turns on the wider bobbin.

    When adding width to the coil you get more resistance for the same number of turns, or a smaller coil size for the same amount of resistance. Either way, they will sound different.

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    Default Re: JB Trembucker

    I think the only trembucker that is different than its normal spaced counterpart is the distortion. I thought I read something where it is wound hotter.

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    I don't think trembucker spacing has any effect on the tone (other than having the pole pieces lined up with the strings).

    On the other hand, the Parallel Axis trembuckers are designed to add more bass. The PA trembuckers are different from the other trembucker spaced pickups, and there is no PA JB (but there is a trembucker spaced JB).
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPete
    I don't think trembucker spacing has any effect on the tone (other than having the pole pieces lined up with the strings).

    On the other hand, the Parallel Axis trembuckers are designed to add more bass. The PA trembuckers are different from the other trembucker spaced pickups, and there is no PA JB (but there is a trembucker spaced JB).
    the PA series are for floyd guitars and sound very different.
    the trembucker series duncan (TB-1 through 14) all sound the same as the regular spaced models.
    they have a slightly higher resistance than a regular spaced model of the same, but not to the point of making them sound different

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    Quote Originally Posted by RG 2570
    the PA series are for floyd guitars and sound very different.
    the trembucker series duncan (TB-1 through 14) all sound the same as the regular spaced models.
    they have a slightly higher resistance than a regular spaced model of the same, but not to the point of making them sound different
    Hmmm,

    The 'TB' versions of duncan's standard pickups, espeacially those which were designed before the whole 'F spaced' thing, are simply not the same. Granted, the difference isn't that huge, but it's there.

    Think about why Duncan has their marketing blurb about 'a little more beef to make up for the thinness of floyd type trems'

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    Quote Originally Posted by inter
    Hmmm,

    The 'TB' versions of duncan's standard pickups, espeacially those which were designed before the whole 'F spaced' thing, are simply not the same. Granted, the difference isn't that huge, but it's there.

    Think about why Duncan has their marketing blurb about 'a little more beef to make up for the thinness of floyd type trems'
    ???

    the only trembucker blurb I found was this:

    " Correct pole piece alignment increases string-to-string balance for a smooth, modern sound from guitars with Floyd Rose™ and similar locking tremolo bridges"
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    Mattpete,

    I was paraphrasing .

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    on the back of the package of my tb-4 stand "Expand spacing provides more balanced string response, and the thinnes and lack of bottom end with locking bridge systems is eliminated"
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    Default Re: JB Trembucker

    I have SH and TB spaced C-5s and JBs and I can't tell the difference.

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    like marcel said it's on the back of the box. i have both trem and regular but i have never put the regular in my ibanez because come to find out i really don't care. It works and sounds great and thats really all that matters to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert S.
    I have SH and TB spaced C-5s and JBs and I can't tell the difference.
    robert thank you this is what i was trying to explain that if you have a TB 1 59er and a sh-1 59 they will both have the same tone but the TB will line up with a fender or floyd bridge best.

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    Default Re: JB Trembucker

    The standard spaced distortion has 16.6 ohms and the distortion trembucker has 21.3 ohms. That has to be beefier than the standard spaced distortion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theodie
    The standard spaced distortion has 16.6 ohms and the distortion trembucker has 21.3 ohms. That has to be beefier than the standard spaced distortion.
    you were talking about the PA-TB2b Distortion Trembucker™ which is
    not the TB-6 (the tremspaced model of the SH-6)
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    Wait a second, I've got a TB-4 JB in my Ibanez hoping to brighten up the bridge position which was first taken by the Tone Zone. Sure it brightened up, but I never got the "real" JB sound, you know that bright love or hate kinda tone. So I do believe it's true. Does DiMarzio do this with their F-Spaced pick ups too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neeradj
    Wait a second, I've got a TB-4 JB in my Ibanez hoping to brighten up the bridge position which was first taken by the Tone Zone. Sure it brightened up, but I never got the "real" JB sound, you know that bright love or hate kinda tone. So I do believe it's true. Does DiMarzio do this with their F-Spaced pick ups too?
    this may have been your experience,but the the TB4 and sh4 have the same tone?

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    I tried both the SH-4 and the TB-4 in my DK-1 before I put a dimebucker in, and I couldn´t tell a difference. At least not one that couldn´t happen on ANY production model pickup, as there ARE tolerances
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zerberus
    I tried both the SH-4 and the TB-4 in my DK-1 before I put a dimebucker in, and I couldn´t tell a difference. At least not one that couldn´t happen on ANY production model pickup, as there ARE tolerances
    zerb, I was told by a duncan tech that the ONLY difference is the spacing he assured me that the wind,gauge magnet, are the same as on the regular spaced pups of the same model.
    I agree with you there are tolerences in resistance but not to the point of changing the pups tone.

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