all ye parents (long rant)

[cream123]

i'm 16 right now and i'm growing up in the world that is today. now this was triggered by the family guy thread, i'll aknowledge that. there are much worse things that your children can fall to than family guy. idsnowdog brought up an excellent point. pr0n, drugs and sex will ruin a guys life way faster than watching immoral tv shows.

quite frankly most teenagers will experience drugs, sex, and (definitely) porn by the time they are out of highschool. i was the epitome of a good kid when i was in middle school. however, by going into my junior of high shcool, i've experienced all of the above as are most of the people around me.

you can't protect them from it, unless you home school...that's just looking for failure tho. what's the issue: schools. you learn a lot more than just math and history there. i knew what jacking off was in 2nd grade. did i do it at the time, of course not. my point is that the school is the fountain of "immoral things".

don't try and choke your kids from social contact, when you take something away, they will want it more. and they will find it, easily.


keep in mind that i don't live in metropolis, i live in a town of 100K

let your kids go out, but don't give a leashless time and don't choke em to death.

/rant

[bungalowbill]

No offense , but tell me how you feel when you have children.

It changes your outlook completely.

[cream123]

No offense , but tell me how you feel when you have children.

It changes your outlook completely.

none taken.

i'm just sayin, in this day in age, it's unavoidable. entirely.

[flank]

i agree but i'd bet its been that way for quite a long time, perhaps not involving the same variables (and maybe not to the same degree)

[phil_104]

I thought the same thing when I was 16, and trust me, your views will change fast. I'm not pretending I can understand what it is like to have kids, but I am starting to understand a lot more of my parent's past actions towards me.

I agree with you that it's not something that can be avoided. That's why parent's are specially important, and shouldn't back down or "slack the leash". My parents talked to me about hard subjects, and tried to keep me out of them.

Like I said, I understand their actions a lot more now, and if ever I have kids, I am sure it's going to be a whole new level of understanding.

I used to hate parents that would often say no to me or my friends when we wanted something, now, I really understand how strong they are for not having always said yes.

[Wattage]

Having been 16 and being the father of a 16 year old I can appreciate what you are saying. Understand your folks love you more than anything on this earth and they only want to try and keep you out of harms way.

[cream123]

i'm not dissing my folks in any way guys. my parents give me a nice range of doing what i want but i have to report back etc. i like the system i have it just seems taht caring about minute stuff just doesn't make sense. minute meaning like tv shows and movie choice

[JB_From_Hell]

No offense , but tell me how you feel when you have children.

It changes your outlook completely.

Word and a half.

i like the system i have it just seems taht caring about minute stuff just doesn't make sense. minute meaning like tv shows and movie choice

Well...... it won't make sense until you are a parent yourself. I know it's crap now, but you'll get it then. The bottom line of parenting is protecting your children from ANYTHING that could do them harm. Simply because you can't do that when they're at school doesn't mean you won't do it at home.

Also, your parents are well aware of the things you're exposed to at school. I didn't read the other thread, but I'm guessing you're not allowed to watch Family Guy. They know you hear the language and whatnot from the show at school, but if they allowed you to watch it at home, that would be the same as condoning it.

My oldest son is 6, and I know that his friends say certain words we don't allow him to say. Do we keep him away from them, or try to censor their speech? No, but he's still expected not to say them.

[The Golden Boy]

I enjoy the Family Guy- however it's the one show I won't let our little girl watch.

[guitfiddle]

No offense , but tell me how you feel when you have children.

It changes your outlook completely.

+1...if parents don't protect and shelter their kids, they learn the crap much faster than they would have otherwise. Still, it ain't about keeping every single thing from them, but rather, teaching them right from wrong regarding those subjects they DO find out about.

[Skarekrough]

I feel it is my job as a parent to let my kid have a childhood and not muddle it up with violence and other things that other parents likely believe is "okay."

Their decision is not mine.

When I grew up my folks had their own restrictions. As I look back now I realize they were pretty smart about them.

[idsnowdog]

i'm 16 right now and i'm growing up in the world that is today. now this was triggered by the family guy thread, i'll aknowledge that. there are much worse things that your children can fall to than family guy. idsnowdog brought up an excellent point. pr0n, drugs and sex will ruin a guys life way faster than watching immoral tv shows.

quite frankly most teenagers will experience drugs, sex, and (definitely) porn by the time they are out of highschool. i was the epitome of a good kid when i was in middle school. however, by going into my junior of high shcool, i've experienced all of the above as are most of the people around me.

you can't protect them from it, unless you home school...that's just looking for failure tho. what's the issue: schools. you learn a lot more than just math and history there. i knew what jacking off was in 2nd grade. did i do it at the time, of course not. my point is that the school is the fountain of "immoral things".

don't try and choke your kids from social contact, when you take something away, they will want it more. and they will find it, easily.


keep in mind that i don't live in metropolis, i live in a town of 100K

let your kids go out, but don't give a leashless time and don't choke em to death.

/rant

This should clear up any confusion.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lq5K9GTEli8

[LesStrat]

I would not classify such things as "minute."

These are significant decisions in child-rearing. Each child is different, and the decisions have to be made based on the family's moral standards. The decision to allow exposure to things that are outside of those standards should never be made lightly, and likely will never be made at the time the teenager feels is appropriate.

The compromise you propose sends a WORSE message to your children: "Our moral standards are negotiable and really are not that valuable."

t4d has a legitimate concern regarding the television programs that are allowed into his home. He also raised a critical issue that seems to be ignored by mainstream media (and used to be rigidly upheld): prime time programming for FAMILIES. The content that is allowed during prime time these days is deplorable.

My eldest son likes watching Adult Swim. This does not bother me, because he is 24 years old. If he were 16, we'd have a problem.

We enjoy "Who's Line Is It Anyway?" and went through a period of watching it regularly. HOWEVER, we would not have done so with teenagers in the house. I have no desire to explain the off-color jokes to adolescents.

[Skarekrough]

t4d has a legitimate concern regarding the television programs that are allowed into his home. He also raised a critical issue that seems to be ignored by mainstream media (and used to be rigidly upheld): prime time programming for FAMILIES. The content that is allowed during prime time these days is deplorable.

My eldest son likes watching Adult Swim. This does not bother me, because he is 24 years old. If he were 16, we'd have a problem.

I feel the same way, but for different reasons.

Prime Time has wanted to do something to attract viewers but is not allowed to be that as the result of decency laws. This is why cable has done so well; the party's a bit wilder there and depending on the station they can get away with alot more.

Major media outlets have to compete with that, or at least they've tried to. But the fact remains that you're not going to find much that will satisfy the 26-year old hipster that named his dog a four-letter word and Ingrid who lives as a housewife in the rural Midwest.

Everyone wants to believe that they're the Centrist and that all media values should revolve around them.

If people would just accept who they are and wander off to whatever media is going to tell them what they want to hear then they'd do just fine.

[JB_From_Hell]

Everyone wants to believe that they're the Centrist and that all media values should revolve around them.

If people would just accept who they are and wander off to whatever media is going to tell them what they want to hear then they'd do just fine.

I agree with you, but I still feel that it's rather absurd to show stuff like Family Guy or Two and a Half Men at 6pm (as our local provider does). What's worse is that they're shown on the adjacent channel to PBS, so if I go to make dinner and leave the kids watching Dragon Tales, one inadvertent bump of the remote could have them watching something quite inappropriate.

[cream123]

nah dude, i can watch family guy if i want to, which i don't - haven't watched tv in a long time. i just think that you should worry about bigger crap than tv

[JB_From_Hell]

nah dude, i can watch family guy if i want to, which i don't - haven't watched tv in a long time. i just think that you should worry about bigger crap than tv

We do worry about bigger crap.... but we still worry about the small crap, too

[tone4days]

i'm 16 right now and i'm growing up in the world that is today. now this was triggered by the family guy thread, i'll aknowledge that. there are much worse things that your children can fall to than family guy. idsnowdog brought up an excellent point. pr0n, drugs and sex will ruin a guys life way faster than watching immoral tv shows.

quite frankly most teenagers will experience drugs, sex, and (definitely) porn by the time they are out of highschool. i was the epitome of a good kid when i was in middle school. however, by going into my junior of high shcool, i've experienced all of the above as are most of the people around me.

you can't protect them from it, unless you home school...that's just looking for failure tho. what's the issue: schools. you learn a lot more than just math and history there. i knew what jacking off was in 2nd grade. did i do it at the time, of course not. my point is that the school is the fountain of "immoral things".

don't try and choke your kids from social contact, when you take something away, they will want it more. and they will find it, easily.


keep in mind that i don't live in metropolis, i live in a town of 100K

let your kids go out, but don't give a leashless time and don't choke em to death.

/rant

thanks for you input
cautionary tale to be sure

[cream123]

My eldest son likes watching Adult Swim. This does not bother me, because he is 24 years old. If he were 16, we'd have a problem.

We enjoy "Who's Line Is It Anyway?" and went through a period of watching it regularly. HOWEVER, we would not have done so with teenagers in the house. I have no desire to explain the off-color jokes to adolescents.

wow....i just don't know what to say

[tone4days]

wow....i just don't know what to say

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