Which duncan pu for fat but clear lead tones?

[N_schon]

I have tried some dimarzio's that are supposed to be designed for this but they have a certain trademark tone about em i dont care for?
like the tone zone,breed,super 3,etc
In the duncan line which model humbucker will have a very fat lead tone and not sound thin or shrill?
I use a mesa amp and a charvel san dimas strat and it has a stock JB and it gets some serious rhythm crunch but it's lead tone is a little thin for me other wise it is a very good pu.

[jeremy]

the custom custom has a fat warm lead tone that isnt thin or shrill

[hamerfan]

Thats what Screaming Demon is all about!

[Hellion]

Amen to the Demon! If you don't like the name, try the Pearly Gates.

[Iron Horse]

Amen to the Demon! If you don't like the name, try the Pearly Gates.

LOL!
The CC is fat. It's not exactly the tightest pickup, so wouldn't choose it mainly for 16th notes at 220 bpm played in the lower register.
The Demon chunks with the best of them, but I wouldn't say it's fat.
I think that the new Alternative 8 might suit you well, if you play heavy stuff and want good lead and rhythm sounds.

[theodie]

Amen to the Demon! If you don't like the name, try the Pearly Gates.

The PG is slightly on the brighter side. Maybe in a LP its sort of fat but, in a 25.5 scale super strat it is going to be brighter.

The Demon is arguably Duncans brightest bucker and some folks consider it shrill and thin.


For clarity and fatness the PATB-1 should be the best choice. The PATB-3 and the Custom Custom is a good choice too but, the PATB-1 will serve you better IMO.

[alex1fly]

patb 1/3

1 more clear, 3 more fat imo

[OlinMusic]

I'd agree with the Custom Custom since its Mids all day, but you might want more bottom.

I would disgree on the Screamin' Demon because in some guitars like my friend's Lynch M1 Tiger we BOTH notice its almost "Stratty" in the upper registers. If you want clarity and definition with more punch and power, get the Demon, otherwise it might not be the key.

Perhaps a custom wind from the Custom Shop? Holdsworth? Brobucker? Not sure, just talkin out my a** and throwing it out there.

What pots and caps are you using with your JB again?

[alex1fly]

Just read your post again. Patb1 would be bomb. Rhythm is crunchy, lead tone is thick and present, its modern voiced if thats what you're into. The PATB pickups feel a little different, but once you get used to them they're pretty cool. Plus its something a little different, which can be fun too.

[Ascension]

I love the sound of A-8 for soloing. listen to the first Van Hallen album as much of it was recorded with a stock Ibanez Distroyer using A-8 mag Super 70's.
Production pickups Alternative 8 but over all the Custom 8 is the absolute BOMB for high gain soloing!!!
Like THIS
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and THIS
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And This
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[hanumanlangur]

I love the sound of A-8 for soloing. listen to the first Van Hallen album as much of it was recorded with a stock Ibanez Distroyer using A-8 mag Super 70's.
Production pickups Alternative 8 but over all the Custom 8 is the absolute BOMB for high gain soloing!!!
Like THIS
http://www.box.net/shared/6v8rq300ok
and THIS
http://www.box.net/shared/luoytg2qso
And This
http://www.box.net/shared/bnc3ghqvrr

Yeah, for soloing, a C8 is close to a beefed up JB. Overall, it's a chunkier, fatter pickup, but the top end is just a bit brighter than the JB's.

I'd just suggest making sure that the JB is fairly close to the strings. Then I'd turn up the amp's volume, and turn down the guitar's tone knob a bit. The JB can sound fat and warm with the right tone knob settings.

[alex1fly]

I love the sound of A-8 for soloing.

Except in a Pearly Gates, you crazy fool! I still don't know what's wrong with you!!!!

Just playing. Have you tried an A8 in a VPAF bridge? Pretty cool IMO, though if I like it you'll probably hate it

Sorry bro. Just giving you (and me) a hard time.

[drew_half_empty]

maybe you should just switch to your neck pickup for leads

kinda sounds like that's what you want

i dig my brobucker bridge a lot though, never really gets shrill

[jimijames]

fat but clear? Try the Pgn, and remember to use your tone knob.

[villanovajunction]

maybe a jazz neck or a 59 neck?

[Heavy]

That seems backwards, you like the JB for rhythm crunch but it's thin for lead? The JB is too smooth to crunch and with all those mids, it's very fat on high notes and that's where that famous singing tone comes from. that's it's one trick, that fat singin' vocal quality.

I hate my JB in my strat because it can't crunch.

[Iron Horse]

That seems backwards, you like the JB for rhythm crunch but it's thin for lead? The JB is too smooth to crunch and with all those mids, it's very fat on high notes and that's where that famous singing tone comes from. that's it's one trick, that fat singin' vocal quality.

I hate my JB in my strat because it can't crunch.

That should be solved with upping the potentiometer value from the std 250 k to 500 k. JB has upper mids spike, and it certainly ain't too smooth. The highs peak is just lower than with some other pups.

[Heavy]

Yeah but it's all those congested mids that make it so smooth imo. upper mids can be spikey but it's not going to give good crunch, that (imo) is the top end trebles/presence frequencies you need. Even split, the JB has a fatter single coil tone!

[Iron Horse]

Yeah, the tone depends on the guitar, cord, pedals, amp, speaker cab, and speakers, so some pups work for some situations better than the others. Of course the high high end is a bit smoother than that of some other pups, but the strong high mids make the JB crunch and sing. Crunch is of course very arguable term, for some it means AC/DC and for others it may mean Megadeth.

[DreamGuitar]

But,JB very fat sound