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    Default derivatives question what is the derivative of Q^2/400

    I'm super rusty on my rules. Can anyone help me out with:

    Q^2 / 400

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    Default Re: derivatives question what is the derivative of Q^2/400

    You have to tell us what you are taking the derivative with respect to.

    d/dQ (Q^2/400) and d/dt(Q^2/400) are different.

    The first is most likely what you are referring to (unless you are doing physics), and the answer would be Q/200.

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    Default Re: derivatives question what is the derivative of Q^2/400

    Quote Originally Posted by firebirdV View Post
    You have to tell us what you are taking the derivative with respect to.

    d/dQ (Q^2/400) and d/dt(Q^2/400) are different.

    The first is most likely what you are referring to (unless you are doing physics), and the answer would be Q/200.
    Thanks. Yeah, it was d/dQ.
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    Default Re: derivatives question what is the derivative of Q^2/400

    General rule for derivatives of polynomial (x^n)

    d/dx (x^n) = n*x^(n-1)

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    Default Re: derivatives question what is the derivative of Q^2/400

    Quote Originally Posted by Ken View Post
    General rule for derivatives of polynomial (x^n)

    d/dx (x^n) = n*x^(n-1)
    Yeah, I still remembered that. Just wasn't sure about the bottom number. I didn't know if I left it alone or if it became zero (and of course you can't divide by zero). I see now, but I was going by the general rule when doing derivatives and partial derivatives that constants are zero, a variable times a constant is a constant, etc.

    In short I was looking at the 400 and wondering if I treated it like a constant.

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    Default Re: derivatives question what is the derivative of Q^2/400

    you're best considering it as (1/400)Q².. anytime you can make a fraction appear as seperate expressions like that, it's usually simpler to do so

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    Default Re: derivatives question what is the derivative of Q^2/400

    Quote Originally Posted by Imp View Post
    you're best considering it as (1/400)Q².. anytime you can make a fraction appear as seperate expressions like that, it's usually simpler to do so
    +1.. That's perhaps the easiest way to see it... It makes no difference if you're writing (1/400)Q² or 2Q², math-wise -- the principles used to solve it are the same.

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    Default Re: derivatives question what is the derivative of Q^2/400

    Quote Originally Posted by Imp View Post
    you're best considering it as (1/400)Q².. anytime you can make a fraction appear as seperate expressions like that, it's usually simpler to do so
    Thanks, that's the part I was having trouble seeing.

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    Default Re: derivatives question what is the derivative of Q^2/400

    d/dQ (Q^2/400) = Q/200 + x ... can't forget the constant
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    Default Re: derivatives question what is the derivative of Q^2/400

    Quote Originally Posted by tone4days View Post
    d/dQ (Q^2/400) = Q/200 + x ... can't forget the constant
    Hm.. Perhaps you're thinking about integral math regarding the constant there..?


    If you take the derivative of e.g. f(Q) = Q²/400 + 5, that can be read as Q²/400 + 5*Q^0 as Q^0=1. So the derivative will thus be f'(Q) = 2Q/400 + 0*5^(-1) = Q/200

    But if you integrate f'(Q) again, you know that it originally was a constant there, but you aren't "supposed to know", so therefore an unknown constant "jumps" in again for the integral..
    Last edited by Tor; 09-25-2008 at 04:31 AM.

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    Default Re: derivatives question what is the derivative of Q^2/400

    Quote Originally Posted by Tor View Post
    Hm.. Perhaps you're thinking about integral math regarding the constant there..?.
    ah, indeed ... i had it backwards..nice catch, thanks
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    Default Re: derivatives question what is the derivative of Q^2/400

    No problem.

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    Default Re: derivatives question what is the derivative of Q^2/400

    Quote Originally Posted by tone4days View Post
    ah, indeed ... i had it backwards..nice catch, thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken View Post
    Geez Bill,

    You're slipping in your old age.
    when it comes to calc, i done slipped a long time ago
    in fact, my wife and i are still in negotiations about who has to relearn calc next year with my son ... i think i am gonna lose on calc but will make her relearn chemistry
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    Default Re: derivatives question what is the derivative of Q^2/400

    Why are there no zingers from newking or sososomething in this thread?

    Or an Odie reply like "d/dQ (Q^2/400) = Q/200 + x = CHOWDER"

    Sorry, I sucked at math, didnt mean to interrupt one of the few threads here with thinking involved

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    Default Re: derivatives question what is the derivative of Q^2/400

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan-ola View Post
    Or an Odie reply like "d/dQ (Q^2/400) = Q/200 + x = CHOWDER"
    .....that made me laugh out loud.

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