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    I'm going to buy a bridge/neck Pearly Gates set today or tomorrow. I've been thinking about this for weeks now, but I don't feel I'm any closer to choosing between nickel covered or non-covered. I'm hoping for some last minute opinions or advice on this. Asthetically I like the nickel, but overall tone is more important. I've never had a covered p-up before to make a judgement call. How much of a difference is there?

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    Default Re: nickel covered vs. non-covered?

    there is a touch of difference in the high end, the covered pups will be a little bit smoother

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeremy View Post
    there is a touch of difference in the high end, the covered pups will be a little bit smoother

    Will they still sound "slightly rude" and will the difference in high end be enough to prevent the harmonics from "jumping out of the guitar" as in the discription?

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    Default Re: nickel covered vs. non-covered?

    Quote Originally Posted by jccarmichael View Post

    Will they still sound "slightly rude" and will the difference in high end be enough to prevent the harmonics from "jumping out of the guitar" as in the discription?
    Totally. Go for the covers - they will be fine. Worst case scenario, you can take them off.

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    Nevermind...
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoorMan View Post
    Nevermind...
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    Default Re: nickel covered vs. non-covered?

    With good quality cover (and SD is using these qualities) is the difference subtle - like have 2 or 3 stompboxes in the line.

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    Howdy,

    It's typical of guitar enthusiasts that my friends prefer my ES-335 just the way it is-with uncovered '59s, saying it looks and sounds better that way. Me, I wish they were covered! I ordered them that way, not realizing that they came without covers, unless I specified otherwise! I'm a single-coil guy, call me ignorant. LOL.
    I think that an ES-335 with uncovered PAFs looks just plain strange; the tone is there, so there is fair compensation. I'm in no mood to change P/Us, since doing so on an ES-335 is costly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eggman View Post
    Howdy,

    It's typical of guitar enthusiasts that my friends prefer my ES-335 just the way it is-with uncovered '59s, saying it looks and sounds better that way. Me, I wish they were covered! I ordered them that way, not realizing that they came without covers, unless I specified otherwise! I'm a single-coil guy, call me ignorant. LOL.
    I think that an ES-335 with uncovered PAFs looks just plain strange; the tone is there, so there is fair compensation. I'm in no mood to change P/Us, since doing so on an ES-335 is costly.

    Eggman
    I prefer the sound of uncovered p'ups. I don't care the way they look.



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    Default Re: nickel covered vs. non-covered?

    it doesn't matter that much
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    Default Re: nickel covered vs. non-covered?

    The effect is like using lower value volume pots (and leaving the tone circuit alone). It can be very hard to hear.

    That's with SDs. Stupid cover design can kill the whole thing.

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    Thanks to everyone for the input. I'll keep checking for new posts on this until I walk out the door tomorrow to my local SD retailer.

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    Howdy,

    LtKojak: Your guitar is gorgeous and I respect your attitude! Good luck, jccarmichael. Now back to my 335 through my dimed Super 112.

    Eggman

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    Quote Originally Posted by eggman View Post
    Howdy,

    LtKojak: Your guitar is gorgeous and I respect your attitude! Good luck, jccarmichael. Now back to my 335 through my dimed Super 112.

    Eggman
    Well... now that I've re-read it, it sort of came out a bit harsh... sorry 'bout that!

    What I meant was that I don't think uncovered p'ups look bad at all... not even in a 335, that's why I put the picture, just to show an example of a good looking 335 with uncovered p'ups.

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    Default Re: nickel covered vs. non-covered?

    Really, the difference with the covers SD uses is really neglible. Just go for the covers if you like the look.

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    Default Re: nickel covered vs. non-covered?

    Just go with whatever looks better to you. Its such a minor difference sonically it really doesn't matter these days.


    What does matter is the physcological effect of having a guitar you think looks good or bad.

    When you love how your guitar looks, it just seems to play better and you love your instrument

    When all you can think of is how ugly you think the uncovered pups look, its not going to play well to you.

    Sounds silly but its the truth in this case.


    You don't always want to buy based on aesthetics, but in this case its fine to do so.
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    Default Re: nickel covered vs. non-covered?

    Quote Originally Posted by millsart View Post
    Just go with whatever looks better to you. Its such a minor difference sonically it really doesn't matter these days.


    What does matter is the physcological effect of having a guitar you think looks good or bad.

    When you love how your guitar looks, it just seems to play better and you love your instrument

    When all you can think of is how ugly you think the uncovered pups look, its not going to play well to you.

    Sounds silly but its the truth in this case.



    You don't always want to buy based on aesthetics, but in this case its fine to do so.
    As in politics and so many other areas of human existence, perception is truth!
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    Default Re: nickel covered vs. non-covered?

    your question brings me to a funny thing: I like open bobbins in all guitars except the ES. In that guitar it reminds me of cheap asian copies. I have a Tokai ES - a really nice copy of the '59 ES335 - but it looks trashy without covers. I shot a pair of used Ants without covers (thats the reason were less pricey) and now i purchased reliced covers for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hamerfan View Post
    I have a Tokai ES - a really nice copy of the '59 ES335 - but it looks trashy without covers.
    Well... I guess I like the "TRASHY" look, then!

    "TRASHY" is good... "TRASHY" works! "TRASHY" rocks!"

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