High Output Jazz Model?!

[rufex2001]

I've been using a Duncan Distortion on the bridge paired with a Jazz Model on the neck. I like the bridge pickup but am absolutely in love with the Jazz neck. Now, I do wish it was high output because I do see a difference when it comes to soloing after a riff done with the Distortion on the bridge. So, is there such a thing? A pickup I mean, because Gain Boosters and effects pedals I know about, but is there a pickup like or similar to the Jazz Model, with all of its wonderful tonal qualities while retaining the high ouput? Is that even possible? Any recomendations are more than welcome! Thanks! Love this forum btw... It is through recomendations here that I chose my current setup!

[rufex2001]

When I say soloing I mean metal soloing... That's when the medium output comes short... Also both pups are splittable individually... And the reason I love the jazz neck is because of its amazing cleans for jazz and blues as well as soloing qualities... I only need wish it had more output...

[Iron Horse]

Jazz bridge model has a bit more output. Of course it will have slightly darker tone because it has more wind. Then there is the Screamin' Demon which has both good cleans and lead tones, but is also darker.

[Lewguitar]

Something to remember about the 59B is that in the 50's and 60's Gibson used the same pickup for both the bridge and neck position. The 59B is a clone of the 1959 or 60 Gibson paf. So feel free to try a 59B as a neck pickup - or a Jazz bridge as a neck pickup.

Lew

[Mr.Morton]

call the custom shop and order an overwound jazz Neck

[rufex2001]

Thanks for the replies guys!

[drew_half_empty]

you know a demon in the neck may actually work. You may have to change a couple of those hex pole things (maybe) but it's a really bright & clear pickup that has more output than any of the PAF's.

plus you can find em used all day, so may be a good starting point

[Zhangliqun]

Raise the neck pu closer to the strings.

[Aceman]

Sportier mag? That won't change the tone too much?

[hanumanlangur]

Raise the neck pu closer to the strings.

Definitely, this is the first step that anyone should try for getting more output, before buying another pickup. But if that doesn't work, a Jazz bridge in the neck position may be your best shot, as that's the only thing really equivalent to an overwound Jazz neck.

[alex1fly]

If your neck pickup has a pot you don't use, you can disconnect it, which will give it a hotter and livelier feel. Or drop in an A8. You should be able to get what you want between magnets, pots, and height adjustments.

[xxxplorer]

Isn't the full shred basically like a Jazz but for use with distortion? Maybe that would be the ticket. I read that somewhere.

[Koreth]

'cept that the full shred has about the same resistance and has an alnico 5 magnet. To my ears, they sound very similar, and I suspect the Jazz and Full Shred share a coil winding like the Custom/Custom5/etc and JB/Distortion. The same winding and same magnet with different pole pieces is not going to get you more output.

[blueman335]

Or drop in an A8. You should be able to get what you want between magnets, pots, and height adjustments.

+1. That would be my first move.

[Fusion1]

I thought A8 is not something that works well in a neck pickup due to the stronger magnetic pull.

[Rich_S]

Granted, I'm a fuddy-duddy and more into classic rock and 80's new-wave stuff, but I think if you love the Jazz Neck, you'd do well to find a bridge pickup that balances better with it. I prefer vintage and slightly-overwound pickups to real hot ones.

That way, the guitar works for your cleaner jazzier stuff, and you can go all metal with more amp gain or a stompbox.

[Marshall_Abuser]

I can attest that the Full Shred neck doesn't have much more output than the Jazz Neck, perhaps just a tad, but it might be a perception thing. For what I'm looking for though, the FS sounds WAY better than the Jazz.

'cept that the full shred has about the same resistance and has an alnico 5 magnet. To my ears, they sound very similar, and I suspect the Jazz and Full Shred share a coil winding like the Custom/Custom5/etc and JB/Distortion. The same winding and same magnet with different pole pieces is not going to get you more output.

[Benjy_26]

The Demon is a louder, slightly thicker sound, but very similar tone to a Jazz neck model.

[Benjy_26]

FWIW, it also splits better than the Jazz and has a much better jazz tone in a solid body than the SH-2 JAzz model.

[blueman335]

I thought A8 is not something that works well in a neck pickup due to the stronger magnetic pull.

Right. A8's are bridge only (being strong & dark) unless you're into some extreme kinds of music. I almost always use A5's in my neck PU's to get their treble & definition.