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    Default Suhr Aldrich vs. 498T! Loser is...

    Our first gig in a while was great... but that is a different story. For our second set I picked up my Les Paul DC studio. Played a few chords and my band mates said 'yeah play that one'. I got half way through our song 'Gomez' and the guitar fell off the strap Didn't sweat it, just played on my knees! When I could I grabbed my explorer (has strap locks lol) and finished the song... to my surprise the guitar was much more thin in comparison and compressed! Reason: Suhr Aldrich! What I thought was a very thick sounding pickup (it was compared to some) was horrible compared to a bone stock Gibson 498T!!!


    SOOOOOooooo... first thing this morning I swapped it for my c5/59 hybrid. So far so good! Much more open and not as compressed. Funny thing to me is I didn't know what pickup compression was until I had a direct comparison!

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    Default Re: Suhr Aldrich vs. 498T! Loser is...

    Doug Aldrich seems to like it.

    Again, this makes me think every guitar needs a different pickup to make it really shine.

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    Default Re: Suhr Aldrich vs. 498T! Loser is...

    Exactly, pickups alone do not make for a great guitar tone

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    Default Re: Suhr Aldrich vs. 498T! Loser is...

    Pickups do not make a great guitar tone, but you also have to keep in mind, a fantastic bedroom tone can be worthless live. When playing by myself, some of my tones sound thin, ratty, and overly aggressive. When in a band mix, they stand out well and don't take up any of the other instrument's frequency space (let the bass player play bass ).
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    Default Re: Suhr Aldrich vs. 498T! Loser is...

    Love the 498T. But it seems to work good in all mahogany guitars. Seems most people who hate it have it in a maple topped LP.

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    Well... I am not saying that the Aldrich is a bad pickup... but I like a more open sounding pickup I suppose. I still think it is great as it is uber hot but doesn't really sound like it. It really focuses really well and it is VERY tight. I am going to put that in my fender to see what I think.

    What I really miss is my L500XL... really the best of everything for me. Tight, sweet, warm and open. Listening to old recordings using it makes me miss it.

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    Default Re: Suhr Aldrich vs. 498T! Loser is...

    I dunno why....but I'm not surprised by your findings.

    I'm going to pull out the Suhr Aldrich from my guitar ASAP because it sounds like friggin' crap.

    I'm going to replace it with a Dimarzio Breed I think...might be thick enough for me and my shreddy leads.

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    LOL... I knew it would be a matter of time before M.A. was on this one!

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    Default Re: Suhr Aldrich vs. 498T! Loser is...

    You need a trouble booster.

    You can't just play the same exact rig settings for different guitars. Even if you would like each of them in isolation, your ears (and those of your audience and bandmembers) have just adjusted to the previous guitar. You will like the previous guitar and your perception will be that the new one if dull, shrill, thin, whatever, something.

    I manage to sometimes not like my best Les Paul after I strat around too much.

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    Default Re: Suhr Aldrich vs. 498T! Loser is...

    For what it's worth - I've seen Whitesnake live recently and Reb Beach has a much better tone than Aldrich (and plays better too)!

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    Default Re: Suhr Aldrich vs. 498T! Loser is...

    maaang i like the stock 498t. i must have an ear for sucked out mids and grainy highs or somethin.... then again, i've never actually owned one. i do like them though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diocletian View Post
    For what it's worth - I've seen Whitesnake live recently and Reb Beach has a much better tone than Aldrich (and plays better too)!
    Funny... been watching clips and DVD, and I find that Dougs tone is better to me... LOL. I still really like that pickup, and I may stick it back in there as listening back to the gig my guitar sounded pretty spiffy.... but I didn't get any of the 'other' guitar in the recording.

    I should just forget about having one guitar that sounds like all the sounds in my head! I need more!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonP View Post
    Love the 498T. But it seems to work good in all mahogany guitars. Seems most people who hate it have it in a maple topped LP.
    +1. It's a very good PU, and just as versatile as a Duncan Custom when you swap magnets. Gibson's mistake is to pair it with a dark neck PU. Put an A5 in your 490R, and it's a good match for a 498T.

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    Default Re: Suhr Aldrich vs. 498T! Loser is...

    I'm finding the same thing with my SSH+ in a metal setting, actually... it's just got no balls in the lower register!

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    Quote Originally Posted by uOpt View Post
    You need a trouble booster.

    does that make you sound like....





    if so, i want one!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benjy_26 View Post
    Pickups do not make a great guitar tone, but you also have to keep in mind, a fantastic bedroom tone can be worthless live. When playing by myself, some of my tones sound thin, ratty, and overly aggressive. When in a band mix, they stand out well and don't take up any of the other instrument's frequency space (let the bass player play bass ).
    Totally off topic, but this reason is why the JB catches so much crap for being thin and flubby. Put it in a stage settign with another guitar and you're MONEY!!!

    On the topic of the Aldrich. I've had one in a strat and a Les Paul, I didn't care for it in the strat, but it shines in the Paul. GREAT TONE through my Jubilee.
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    Default Re: Suhr Aldrich vs. 498T! Loser is...

    +1

    Reb Beach has better tone and better licks.
    Reb's tone is exceptionally good when he uses his EMG 89/85.
    I didn't care for his tone when he used a Dimarzio Norton.

    Quote Originally Posted by Diocletian View Post
    For what it's worth - I've seen Whitesnake live recently and Reb Beach has a much better tone than Aldrich (and plays better too)!

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    Default Re: Suhr Aldrich vs. 498T! Loser is...

    +1

    Lack of balls in the lower mids is my gripe with the Aldrich too.
    I need something VERY fat/thick in the lower mids and I'm thinking of a Dimarzio Breed bridge right now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Virtual Kevorkian View Post
    I'm finding the same thing with my SSH+ in a metal setting, actually... it's just got no balls in the lower register!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshall_Abuser View Post
    +1

    Lack of balls in the lower mids is my gripe with the Aldrich too.
    I need something VERY fat/thick in the lower mids and I'm thinking of a Dimarzio Breed bridge right now.
    Dude give it a rest,we all know you don`t like John Suhr pups. Maybe they`re just not for you but you will be hard pressed to find a better quality builder of pups anywhere,certainly not DiMarzio. Nothing against DiMarzio but come on now!

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    Default Re: Suhr Aldrich vs. 498T! Loser is...

    Suhr pickups are very well built, no doubt about it. Better built than Dimarzio for sure, but I'm not sure if Duncans are not better built.

    But in the end of the day, once the pickup is installed inside the guitar, what matters to me is TONE. And I think it's time someone steps up to say these Aldrich humbuckers are not the "holy grail of tone" like nearly everyone says. It is my opinion that John Suhr just doesn't compare to Seymour or Steve Blucher when it comes to designing pickups that have TONE. Just my 0.02$....

    Quote Originally Posted by Moonsorrow View Post
    Dude give it a rest,we all know you don`t like John Suhr pups. Maybe they`re just not for you but you will be hard pressed to find a better quality builder of pups anywhere,certainly not DiMarzio. Nothing against DiMarzio but come on now!

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