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    Default How to tell if you need a fret dress OR a full re-fret?

    Just want to be sure. I don't want a guitar tech to push me around and have me refret my guitar if a simple fret crowning would do.

    My Squier has medium frets, but I can live with them. It buzzes too much with nowhere near low action. That calls for some crowning I think, but how to tell if you actually need to scrap the old frets?

    I know nothing about this procedure, so I hope I'm not sounding like an idiot here.

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    Default Re: How to tell if you need a fret dress OR a full re-fret?

    It depends wholly on how much height would be left on teh original frets after dressing is complete.

    This depends on a few factors, most obviously the original fret size and the depth of any grooves, but also on the state of hte fretboard itself.

    Unfortunately, it´s almost impossible to judge from pics and wholly impossible without them
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    Default Re: How to tell if you need a fret dress OR a full re-fret?

    Here's the thing, if you really think things are that bad, you could always go for a partial refret.

    Chances are, unless you've played the guitar several hours a day for the past 10 years and never once had any work done to the frets, you don't need a refret. Unless of course you're looking for something different. Keep in mind though, if the frets feel short to you now, a noticeable amount will be removed through leveling and recrowning.
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    Default Re: How to tell if you need a fret dress OR a full re-fret?

    For a squire, it might be cheaper buying a replacement neck than having it re-fretted.

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    Default Re: How to tell if you need a fret dress OR a full re-fret?

    Quote Originally Posted by DonP View Post
    For a squire, it might be cheaper buying a replacement neck than having it re-fretted.
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    Default Re: How to tell if you need a fret dress OR a full re-fret?

    Quote Originally Posted by DonP View Post
    For a squire, it might be cheaper buying a replacement neck than having it re-fretted.
    It might be cheaper to buy a whole new guitar.

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    Default Re: How to tell if you need a fret dress OR a full re-fret?

    It might be financially smarter to buy one, but then again...when have we ever done something that was financially smart as compared to it being our number one.
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    Default Re: How to tell if you need a fret dress OR a full re-fret?

    You need to level them, not just crown.

    My rule of thumb is - if you can still see the threads, level them.

    I have leveled several guitars that now have verw low frets but it has been a huge improvement nontheless, the playability is excellent.

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    Default Re: How to tell if you need a fret dress OR a full re-fret?

    Like the guys said, if after leveling (that's what will make the buzzing go away) the frets are too low for comfortable playing then you need new frets.
    That generally is dependent upon the lowest groove on the entire fretboard (or at the very least, the most erroneous area of the fretboard) since all other frets will have to be leveled to that exact height.

    Like Zerb said, one would have to examine the fretboard to be able to judge...
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    Default Re: How to tell if you need a fret dress OR a full re-fret?

    Quote Originally Posted by JB_From_Hell View Post
    It might be cheaper to buy a whole new guitar.
    Nah, I love this guitar. I bought it used for next to nothing, and it's got some upgrades into it. Has a wild, open sound. Feels good, it's a solid backup axe.

    I think I'll go for a fret leveling/crowning/everything except a refret, then. They don't even have the typical string indents right under the strings. I think the previous owner barely played it, and that it had poor fretwork from the factory.

    I'll also give it a decent bone nut while I'm at it.

    Thanks again!
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