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    Default Re: So Slash tweeted about some new Duncans he's getting...

    I've tested a number of SD pickups several times and I remember there where pieces with old and new style stickers for at least 59 and JB, and obviously old and new patina in there. Have never been able to record a difference.

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    Default Re: So Slash tweeted about some new Duncans he's getting...

    Quote Originally Posted by the guy who invented fire View Post

    As an aside, I find this down right laughable that Gibson is going to build and sell a copy of a guitar that is a counterfeit copy of a Gibson guitar...
    It's ridiculous. How much are they going to charge for this? A copy of a guitar which was, presumably, MUCH cheaper?
    It's insane. Some people will buy anything. My Epi LP with A2Pro bridge would, I'm certain, sound just as good in Slash's hands as any of his 2-3 grand Gibsons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the guy who invented fire View Post
    Well...I hate being left in the dark so I did some looking...on Slash's twitter page he mentions the LP...the new Gibson Slash LP will be a replica of his Derrig LP Clone, the guitar he used on Appetite.

    As an aside, I find this down right laughable that Gibson is going to build and sell a copy of a guitar that is a counterfeit copy of a Gibson guitar...

    The pickups, and I quote from Slash's own twitter page "The pickups are Alnico II's, but with subtle design differences to make them as they were made in 1986"

    Now, Evan says this is legit so I say...CONFIRMED...there IS a difference in older Alnico II Pro's and the ones you can buy off the shelf today...

    Firstly, i wonfer if the everyday guitarist will actually be able to hear the diff's between today's A2P's, and the new ones when they come out.

    About the clone Les Paul that Gibson is going to make . . . that is funny as hell !



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    It isn't a copy, it's a high end replica, made by a luthier, arguably more legit than any Gibson made post '60...

    They cost more than Gibsons and they sound better...

    It really isn't laughable at all...

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    Wonder what colour this clone of a clone sig LP will be ?



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    Stoner Rock and Stoner Metal are interchangeable terms describing sub-genres of rock and metal music. Stoner rock is typically slow-to-mid tempo, low-tuned and bass-heavy. It incorporates elements of Psychedelic Rock, Blues-Rock and Doom Metal into a more repetitive and riff-centred style. Melodic vocals and 'retro' production are also common traits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oilpit View Post
    It isn't a copy, it's a high end replica, made by a luthier, arguably more legit than any Gibson made post '60...

    They cost more than Gibsons and they sound better...

    It really isn't laughable at all...
    Replica and copy are the same thing...it's a guitar that was NOT built by Gibson yet it says Gibson on it...that makes it a fake, a copy, a clone...it's all the same.

    Im betting you have no idea how much a Derrig costs but just so you know they cost more than some Gibsons and less than others...and cost has NOTHING to do with the sound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oilpit View Post
    It isn't a copy, it's a high end replica, made by a luthier, arguably more legit than any Gibson made post '60...

    They cost more than Gibsons and they sound better...
    Seriously, is that true? I don't get it then.
    If Slash could afford such an expensive replica, and pass it off as a Gibson.....why didn't he just play a Gibson?

    I've not read his book so I genuinely don't know, just seems odd to spend money on a fake, only to pretend it's a real Gibson.


    And if Gibson are copying these high end instruments, isn't THAT illegal?

    This is all rather bizarre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B2D View Post
    I'd imagine that over the years, very minimal changes would have to be necessitated to meet RoHS compliances and stuff like that.
    That's a great point. Considered starting a thread titled, "How do California's Environmental Laws affect the manufacture of Duncan Pickups" a few times but did not want the question to be construed as an incentive for a politcal slap fight. It's just a legitemate question considering how the laws have been changed over the past 25+ years. For example, someone had a post once on how making formovar (sp?) has had to change over the years due to legal restrictions on such and such ingredient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diocletian View Post
    Seriously, is that true? I don't get it then.
    If Slash could afford such an expensive replica, and pass it off as a Gibson.....why didn't he just play a Gibson?

    I've not read his book so I genuinely don't know, just seems odd to spend money on a fake, only to pretend it's a real Gibson.


    And if Gibson are copying these high end instruments, isn't THAT illegal?

    This is all rather bizarre.
    Not at all, in the 70s and 80s Gibson simply was not making Les Paul that was like the 50s LPs. Small neck, neck tenon, different frets etc, so it was the closest thing he could get his hands on.
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    Default Re: So Slash tweeted about some new Duncans he's getting...

    From the way Slash phrased it, it sounds like he's asking for an "aged" (maybe degaussed) pickup, rather than one that was built differently than they are now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diocletian View Post
    Seriously, is that true? I don't get it then.
    If Slash could afford such an expensive replica, and pass it off as a Gibson.....why didn't he just play a Gibson?
    I've not read his book so I genuinely don't know, just seems odd to spend money on a fake, only to pretend it's a real Gibson.
    And if Gibson are copying these high end instruments, isn't THAT illegal?
    This is all rather bizarre.
    When Slash got his hands on the Derrig he got it becasue it was the closest to a 50's LP he could get at the time...it wasn't nearly as expensive as you might think and it was surly less than a real 50's LP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the guy who invented fire View Post
    As an aside, I find this down right laughable that Gibson is going to build and sell a copy of a guitar that is a counterfeit copy of a Gibson guitar...
    That is pretty funny if you think about it...imagine the marketing verbiage

    "The masters at the Gibson Custom shop have faithfully copied with painstaking accuracy, every detail of this...faithful copy...."



    I checked out Slash's Twitter page too...wonder how "subtle" the differences are...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhale667 View Post
    That is pretty funny if you think about it...imagine the marketing verbiage

    "The masters at the Gibson Custom shop have faithfully copied with painstaking accuracy, every detail of this...faithful copy...."

    I checked out Slash's Twitter page too...wonder how "subtle" the differences are...
    Again, will there be enough of a diff for some to sell their current A2P's and buy the new ones ?



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    Default Re: So Slash tweeted about some new Duncans he's getting...

    Quote Originally Posted by SlowGroove View Post
    Wonder what colour this clone of a clone sig LP will be ?



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    Should look like this.
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    All guitars sound the same and none of you are as cool as Slash.

    There -- now it doesn't matter how the pickups were made.
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    Mahogany slabs with P-90's into a Marshall.

    There is literally no rig more rock-n-roll than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blindedbysilence View Post
    Should look like this.
    Ahhh thanx for the pic . . . looks like i am NOT gonna have that LP then, as i am not a fan of that look (nor colour).
    The matched-book, tiger stripe type tops does nothing for me !
    Gimme a good ol plain top and i am happy !



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    only gibson would make a copy of a guitar that is already a copy of one of their other guitars. and it'll retail here for about 11K.

    gibson just made the list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evan Skopp View Post
    I spent all afternoon yesterday with him in the studio where he's recording his new solo CD. Frank was there too (that guy is amazing with a soldering iron).
    that must have been exhausting...
    wahwah, on gigging in the UAE:
    It was refreshing to see Australians abroad, sober. I almost didn't recognise them.

    Funkfingers, in response to some highy questionable spam:
    When this forum talks about getting wood, we're usually thinking of flamed maple.

    Mike Hastings, 14th Earl of Loudoun:
    I reckon I might send Lizzie a bill for back rent. The old girl's family have been living in my bloody castle for the last 500 years.

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    Default Re: So Slash tweeted about some new Duncans he's getting...

    This could possibly explain the "MJ Placebo effect" since there were apparently changes over the years??

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    I love that guitar. When I think "Slash", I think that guitar.
    Oh no.....


    Oh Yeah!

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