Epiphone Dot Pickups

[Zjihn]

I'm looking to put new pickups in my Epiphone Dot. So far I'm looking at a SH-55 in the bridge and a SPH-90-1 Phat Cat in the Neck. I really like the vintage tones and being able to switch from a harder sound to an acoustic sound.

Any Suggestions?

[oilpit]

That sounds like it would be awesome...

Like REALLY awesome...

[Jessie Sammler]

I'd say that would be quite a good place to start.

[El CHupacabra]

For a hollowbody I'd advise on getting the pickups covered, most hollowbodies do to control the sound and the high end.

[Jessie Sammler]

Of course. They wouldn't look right without metal covers.

[El CHupacabra]

And potting them with the wax helps reduce electrical feedback/interference, which is key with hollowbodys.

[Jessie Sammler]

If you're going to buy a Seth Lover and pot it, why not just buy a '59 or an A2P?

[El CHupacabra]

a pair of A2P would sound beautiful in a hollowbody.

[Zjihn]

a pair of A2P would sound beautiful in a hollowbody.

I tried to find a comparison of the 59 to the Seth Lover 55 and didn't find much. What's the main difference?

As far as the A2P I didn't see anything on it.

[Jessie Sammler]

http://www.seymourduncan.com/product..._model_sh1_an/

http://www.seymourduncan.com/product...55_seth_lover/

http://www.seymourduncan.com/product...ph1_alnico_ii/

http://www.seymourduncan.com/support...umbuckers_and/

[El CHupacabra]

the A2P is an abbreviation for Alnico II Pro, great humbucker. It features an ALnico II magnet, and It has a soft magnetic field for bringing out the guitar's natural sound. It works great on most vintage style Fenders and most gibsons, and it will certainly work amazingly in a hollowbody. Just don't put it on a guitar with a FLoyd Rose or 2-point trem, as it won't have a good sound. Vintage Fender brdiges are ok though cause they have a stronger connection to the guitar and resonate better IMO at least. The Neck model has 7.6k DC resistance and the bridge model has 7.85k DC resistance. I say go for that, you won't be disappointed.

[Zjihn]

Those A2P sound nice especially how it works with the natural sound which I like. One thing is that I like the single-coil sound in the neck (kind of like a HSS setup) are they able to be split decently?

[El CHupacabra]

Well I don't use my splits alot, more so with my Pearly Gates Bridge. I can't honestly answer that. I would guess yes.

BTW welcome to the group! Glad you're in on the subculture of pickup people.

[marvar]

I tried several pu combinations on my Dot- and I went with phat cats in both neck and bridge- works well for me. Love the sound.

[Zjihn]

Thanks Chupa!

Thanks Jessie for the link to the sound clips.

I tried several pu combinations on my Dot- and I went with phat cats in both neck and bridge- works well for me. Love the sound.

After listening to the sound clips I really like the raw sound of the P-90's. I think it'll work especially well now that I have the Spider Valve iii bogner - I don't need the distortion from the pickups as much.

[super rad stuff]

first of all a couple of important questions....

what kind of music do you play? what amp do you use? what don't you like about the pickups you're using? what do you want out of new pickups?

it's the kinda stuff people should know before they start making reccomendations....

[Jessie Sammler]

first of all a couple of important questions....

what kind of music do you play? what amp do you use? what don't you like about the pickups you're using? what do you want out of new pickups?

it's the kinda stuff people should know before they start making reccomendations....

That stuff is irrelevant. It would just depress you, anyway. We're making recommendations based on what we would do. We're just following our hearts., which is the only valid course of action. (Haven't you ever seen a romantic comedy?)

[Zjihn]

first of all a couple of important questions....

what kind of music do you play? what amp do you use? what don't you like about the pickups you're using? what do you want out of new pickups?

it's the kinda stuff people should know before they start making reccomendations....

I agree with Jessie and going with your heart on this but these questions are pretty relevant.

I'm playing with a Line 6 Spider Valve iii Bonger amp. The type of music I play is mostly rock ranging from the Beatles to the Foo Fighters from John Mayer to the Smashing Pumpkins.

The pickups I'm using are the factory Epiphone ones. They are dull, damp and muddy. However I still liked it better than my Gibsom Les Paul Custom with P-100's. The LP had a flat tone where as you can really feel the difference with the hollowbody tone although the pickups aren't the greatest.

To add to that (and as mentioned above), I love having a rich, singlecoil (almost acoustic) sound in the Neck Position. As for the Bridge I would love to have a single coil sound (for certain songs) but also a great thick, rich distortion sound.

Basically I know I want a P-90 in the neck but I'm still up in the air about the bridge.

[blueman335]

I think you can get the tones you want with a less expensive bridge PU. If you want an A2 HB, try a PGB, '57 Classic, or Burstbucker. You can usually find a used one for around half price. Personally I like an A5 bridge with 250K's, which gives it some warmth & fullness, and maintains enough treble for cut.

I've upgraded a few Dots and here's what I like:

'57 Classic with A8/Phat CatN with A5/A4 - rich tones on both PU's. Phat Cat necks are pretty dark with the stock twin A2's. You need at least one A5 in there to give them some life & sparkle, then they sound nice and open like a single coil.

Pair of '59's - Always a good combo in a Gibson-design guitar. Clear vintage tones.

C8/'59N - For a bridge with more output and mids.

Pair of Carvin C22's - Very good, clear PAF tones.

[El CHupacabra]

hey I wanna know, has BLueman ever used uncovered PuPs in a hollowbody?