"A Reason to Believe" Vox Tonelab ST w wah - digging in.

[innerdreamrecords.co]

I have had the unit for a bit and now I'm starting to make some patches including the wah wah patch I used in the bridge. I don't own a wah so I just went by ear as to what worked for the song when I made the patch. I used a Dean Markley guitar, AD and Battery drums and a AT2020 on the vocals.

256k mp3.

A Reason to Believe

[Lazarus1140]

I can't seem to get into that site. When I try to sig in, even after registering as a fan, it keeps going back to the sign-in page.

[innerdreamrecords.co]

Hmmm, sorry about that. Try this http://www.reverbnation.com/anotherblackseason

[innerdreamrecords.co]

I think I screwed up the first link! Opps, sorry again! Fixed now.

[Lazarus1140]

It's great, Robert! The wah tones are killer! What are you using for keys?

[innerdreamrecords.co]

Thank you Lazarus1140, glad it sounds good to you. I don't know much about wah wahs.

I use two main synths the Predator for Bass and basic electronica stuff and the u-he Zebra for atmospheric pads and arps - it does those great.

http://www.robpapen.com

http://www.u-he.com/zebra/

I also use the ex24 in Logic for real strings and piano when I have those in a song.

[daemon barbeque]

Wow! You hit the "hit" button again Rob! This sounds awesome! The Guitar tone is fat and strong! The concept is awesome. I don't like the lyrics but that's a minor point for me. I like the song! It's just awesome!

[innerdreamrecords.co]

LOL who needs lyrics anyhow! They just get in the way of the guitars.
I like what Brian Eno said, as long as they don't ruin the song it's cool - or something like that.

I'm starting to like the Vox ST, if I had a better guitar (read pups as in Seymour Duncans) I think it would really sound great.

Thanks so much BBQ, if I could find a million more like you and Lazarus I'd be good.

[daemon barbeque]

LOL who needs lyrics anyhow! They just get in the way of the guitars.
I like what Brian Eno said, as long as they don't ruin the song it's cool - or something like that.

I'm starting to like the Vox ST, if I had a better guitar (read pups as in Seymour Duncans) I think it would really sound great.

Thanks so much BBQ, if I could find a million more like you and Lazarus I'd be good.

W have to invent instant cloning dammit! LOL

[innerdreamrecords.co]

W have to invent instant cloning dammit! LOL

You're the Doctor! Get to work.

[Pink Unicorn Horsey]

The vocals are just OK, kinda conventional, but the song itself kicks ass. The guitars are very, very cool. Really nice wah in the middle, and I like how the song drops down a bit after that part.

This could be on a nine inch nails album. I dig.

- Keith

[Wattage]

Sounds great, the vocals could be a little more laid back, don't try and force the pitch maybe. You should check out Ultravox if you've never listened to them.

I like it

[innerdreamrecords.co]

Thanks for the listen and crit PUH and Wattage. I'll have to give the vocals some thought - it's always hard producing your own material especially vocals as I can't be objective.

Glad you guys liked it though.

* I use to be a big Ultravox fan!

[Wattage]

Cool I hear a little bit of the UV sound in there.

[innerdreamrecords.co]

I sang the whole thing again and wrote new lyrics for the first verse. I think it's better now.

A Reason to Believe

[Pink Unicorn Horsey]

I am really digging this tune, man. I still say it needs a singer with more anger or edge—Trent Reznor-esque—but it's a great tune! If this came on the radio, I wouldn't turn the dial, and I'd look up the artist on Wiki as soon as I got to a computer.

- Keith

[innerdreamrecords.co]

I am really digging this tune, man. I still say it needs a singer with more anger or edge—Trent Reznor-esque—but it's a great tune! If this came on the radio, I wouldn't turn the dial, and I'd look up the artist on Wiki as soon as I got to a computer.

- Keith

Thanks man I appreciate it! That's a nice complement. I'm older than Trent and even he can't pull off the angry young man vibe anymore imo. I personally think that singing style needs to stop at 40.

[Pink Unicorn Horsey]

Thanks man I appreciate it! That's a nice complement. I'm older than Trent and even he can't pull off the angry young man vibe anymore imo. I personally think that singing style needs to stop at 40.

Ha! Yeah, you're right. Since Ghosts, which is an instrumental album, I think his best album is The Downward Spiral—and that's over 15 years old.

[innerdreamrecords.co]

I really like NIN but they haven't evolved - I don't think. He sings the same song today that he sang on Pretty Hate Machines. By that I mean he's writing and singing the same thing.

[everdrone]

Sounds good!