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    This is a rough sketch of my next project guitar. I am looking to get it started in a month here or so. Here are some details on what I am looking to do with it:

    - The headstock will be changed to a paddle/story-book style headstock
    - Neck-through guitar
    - quilted maple body (edges around the neck piece)
    - Top 1/3 or the body will be routed out and an F-hole will be added to give it some semi-hollow abilities
    - Neck pickup: Danelectro style lipstick SLD-1
    - Bridge pickup: SD phat cat SPH90-1
    - The bridge pickup will be split coil with push/pull arrangement so I can go between two single coil sound, and single-HB sound
    - Still can't decide if I will do V/T for both pickups, or just T/T/V
    - TOM bridge
    - Tailpiece ?? (still debating between a Bigsby trem bar or a Trapeze style tailpiece)
    - It will be finished in a cherry finish



    Any thoughts? Opinions? Concerns? Also... I can't figure out a name for it, so if you think you have a good name, throw it out there.

    Thanks for looking!
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    Default Re: Next Project. Thoughts?

    I made one from swamp ash one time, heavy as heck! but sounded nice.

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    Default Re: Next Project. Thoughts?

    I am thinking of going the maple route.
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    Default Re: Next Project. Thoughts?

    Cool, good luck...I just started getting plans and materials for my first build. Well, I'm not building a neck, got that from Warmoth.

    Keep us updated on the progress.

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    Default Re: Next Project. Thoughts?

    Don't make it neckthrough. It makes the guitar harder to put together, if the neck is messed up the guitar becomes a doorstop, and the sustain thing is a myth. Someone performed an experiment where they discovered that a good bolt on joint actually has more sustain due to the glue used in neckthroughs. Furthermore, if the heel is really bugging you you could just do an invisibolt thing where you start the neck in the middle of the body. Kind of a bolt-through type thing.

    edit: what body shape?

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    Default Re: Next Project. Thoughts?

    I really like the look of a good smooth neck-thru design though. And I really want to start pushing my abilities to make guitars so I figured that was a good next step.

    Also, I love the racing stripe look of natural neck-thru guitars.
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    Default Re: Next Project. Thoughts?

    fair enough, as long as you know what you're getting into.

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    Default Re: Next Project. Thoughts?

    The body shape is almost like if a Strat and a Jaguar had a baby and then that baby grew up and mated with a Les Paul, but the Les Paul had more recessive genes.

    That type of body style.
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    Default Re: Next Project. Thoughts?

    - The headstock will be changed to a paddle/story-book style headstock
    - Neck-through guitar
    - quilted maple body (edges around the neck piece)
    All maple body will be pretty shrill, especially with single pups.
    I'd look at making the neck-thru a maple/walnut/maple lam. Check out how Carvin does their neck-thru.

    What do you mean by "edges around the neck piece"?

    Other body things to consider... recessed strap locks, recessed jack, recessed cavity cover so it fits flush with the back, made out of the body wood.

    Any idea about neck specs?
    I'd consider a bone nut and locking tuners.
    And with a guitar like that you'd have to look at an ebony fretboard... mmm ebony.

    - Top 1/3 or the body will be routed out and an F-hole will be added to give it some semi-hollow abilities
    - Neck pickup: Danelectro style lipstick SLD-1
    - Bridge pickup: SD phat cat SPH90-1
    - The bridge pickup will be split coil with push/pull arrangement so I can go between two single coil sound, and single-HB sound
    Not understanding your scheme here.
    IIRC, the Phat Cat is a 2 conductor pup so you can't split it.

    If you end up with an HB in the bridge, then use a Triple Shot for sure. Simplifies the coil split thing.

    It looks like you're contemplating a 5-way switch.
    Have you seen this?

    Have you played on an all maple guitar with a Dano neck pup?
    I haven't, but I'm wondering about how trebly it would be.

    As much as I like the HxS layout, I've never been a fan of Lipstick pups.
    I really like stuff like the Hot Rails in the neck with an HB bridge... that way I can split both and mix and match.

    I'd look at the StraBro90 neck and maybe dig thru some of the more unusual SD humbuckers... maybe a StagMag or the PRails.

    - Still can't decide if I will do V/T for both pickups, or just T/T/V
    Definitely V/T for both... maybe stacked V/T on concentric pots?

    - TOM bridge
    - Tailpiece ?? (still debating between a Bigsby trem bar or a Trapeze style tailpiece)
    - It will be finished in a cherry finish
    Bigsby, definitely.
    Better break-over pressure compared to Trap.
    Have you seen the Hipshot BabyGrand bridge?

    Cherry finish with natural edge binding would look sharp.

    Any thoughts? Opinions? Concerns? Also... I can't figure out a name for it, so if you think you have a good name, throw it out there.
    Thanks for looking!
    Gold or chrome finish?
    Chrome and cherry sounds nice.

    I like the body style... almost wanna see a violin scroll for the upper horn.
    In fact, I'm seeing a BabyGrand bridge, gold trim, with a violin finish and a really traditional f-hole!

    Good luck!

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    Default Re: Next Project. Thoughts?

    All maple body will be pretty shrill, especially with single pups.
    I'd look at making the neck-thru a maple/walnut/maple lam. Check out how Carvin does their neck-thru.
    What about going all maple and eliminating the lipstick from the neck?

    Other body things to consider... recessed strap locks, recessed jack, recessed cavity cover so it fits flush with the back, made out of the body wood.
    I am planning on recessing everything so it has a really flat clean look to it

    Not understanding your scheme here.
    IIRC, the Phat Cat is a 2 conductor pup so you can't split it.

    If you end up with an HB in the bridge, then use a Triple Shot for sure. Simplifies the coil split thing.
    Damn! I wasn't aware that was the setup of the phat cat. You have me rethinking the pup setup to match the all maple body. What do you think about doing a full-sized HB in the bridge that I can do a push/pull setup with, and a single-coil-sized HB at the bridge that I could also split? What pups would you recommend for that set up? I am looking for pups with chrome or nickel covers on them.

    It looks like you're contemplating a 5-way switch.
    Have you seen this?
    Actually I am going to just go with a 3 way toggle

    Chrome and cherry sounds nice.
    Here is ultimately what I am looking to do for the color scheme...

    All chrome/nickel hardware from stock to butt. Cherry headstock top. Ebony fret board. The rest of the neck would be finished in creme. The body would have a creme racing stripe down the neck section, and the rest of the body would be finished in cherry. So the body would ultimately go: quilted maple cherry/ creme maple/ quilted maple cherry


    I will have to look into that bridge
    Thanks
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    I dig the wood!

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    Default Re: Next Project. Thoughts?

    ]What about going all maple and eliminating the lipstick from the neck?
    You'll need to find just the right pups to go with the maple/ebony combo.


    I am planning on recessing everything so it has a really flat clean look to it
    Awesome.

    Damn! I wasn't aware that was the setup of the phat cat. You have me rethinking the pup setup to match the all maple body. What do you think about doing a full-sized HB in the bridge that I can do a push/pull setup with, and a single-coil-sized HB at the bridge that I could also split? What pups would you recommend for that set up? I am looking for pups with chrome or nickel covers on them.
    HxS is one of my favorites.
    Not sure about a chrome/nickel covered single... I'd look at the Hot/Cool Rails or even the PA-STK1n for the neck.
    If you want it covered, you'll probably have to go HB or find a Tele neck pup you like.
    I found this, Lipstick Tube for Strat SLS-1, but no idea what it sounds like.
    For the bridge I'm thinking Custom Custom or one of the PATBs.
    They seem to work best for brighter guitars.

    Here is ultimately what I am looking to do for the color scheme...

    All chrome/nickel hardware from stock to butt. Cherry headstock top. Ebony fret board. The rest of the neck would be finished in creme. The body would have a creme racing stripe down the neck section, and the rest of the body would be finished in cherry. So the body would ultimately go: quilted maple cherry/ creme maple/ quilted maple cherry.
    Ahh, ok I see what you're talking about.
    I'm not sure the quilted maple/maple will be very much of a contrast.
    But cherry stained quilted maple should look awesome.

    I will have to look into that bridge
    Thanks
    No problem.

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    Default Re: Next Project. Thoughts?

    if you really like the sound of a p90 but want to split the bridge, you could always try p-rails. Otherwise I'd suggest something warmer like a 57 classic or a seth lover.

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