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    Hi guys, I am new here. I was wondering how you identify this pickup?

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    Default Re: How to identify a pickup

    Butyrate bobbins, double-creme, 4-conductor, no sticker. From pictures alone it's not possible to make an educated guess without a DC reading.

    However, these specs narrows it down to some Custom Order PAF replica... most probably from early '80s.

    Chances are, this p'up is a MOJO MONSTER!

    Get an Ohm reading with a Multimeter and get back to us here ASAP!
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    Default Re: How to identify a pickup

    Thank you. I do not have a multimeter or know how to use one, but I suppose I can pick one up today and figure it out.

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    Default Re: How to identify a pickup

    Welcome to the forum.

    +1 on everything that LtKojak says. Double cream bobbins means pre-DiMarzio claiming a patent on that feature. Are those cross headed elevator screws original?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Funkfingers View Post
    Welcome to the forum.

    +1 on everything that LtKojak says. Double cream bobbins means pre-DiMarzio claiming a patent on that feature. Are those cross headed elevator screws original?
    Yeah, I was shocked to see it was a duncan when I pulled it because I thought Dimarizo had a patent on double cream pickups. As for the screws...I have no idea. I pulled it from an old Hamer Blitz.

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    Default Re: How to identify a pickup

    You guys do know you can still buy brand new Duncans in double cream, right? While that pickup does look older due to signs of use and yellowing, just because its double cream doesn't mean its pre-Dimarzio patent. I buy double cream Duncans often.

    As the others said, multimeter readings will tell a lot. Also sliding the magnet out and seeing what kind it is might also help.

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    Since it was in a Blitz I'm going to hazard a guess and say Distortion.

    No telling what it'd fetch on Ebay
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    Quote Originally Posted by TattooedCarrot View Post
    You guys do know you can still buy brand new Duncans in double cream, right? While that pickup does look older due to signs of use and yellowing, just because its double cream doesn't mean its pre-Dimarzio patent. I buy double cream Duncans often.

    As the others said, multimeter readings will tell a lot. Also sliding the magnet out and seeing what kind it is might also help.
    You buy them with the cover lightly solders from SD, this does not have solder blubs.
    Next point is that it dont have the MIA and the big logo, so its round 1983-88
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    Quote Originally Posted by hamerfan View Post
    You buy them with the cover lightly solders from SD, this does not have solder blubs.
    Next point is that it dont have the MIA and the big logo, so its round 1983-88
    Good points. But I was addressing those who commented that merely because it was double cream it had to be old, I didn't disagree that it was probably old, just the reasoning regarding the double cream = must be pre-Dimarzio patent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TattooedCarrot View Post
    Good points. But I was addressing those who commented that merely because it was double cream it had to be old, I didn't disagree that it was probably old, just the reasoning regarding the double cream = must be pre-Dimarzio patent.
    You've "merely" missed the point. It never had a cover on it. Therefore it's pre DiMarzio Copyright.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FluffChop View Post
    You've "merely" missed the point. It never had a cover on it. Therefore it's pre DiMarzio Copyright.
    You're completely missing my point, and being a dick about it too.

    My point, was "merely" to point out that just because a Duncan is double cream, doesn't automatically mean it has to be pre-Dimarzio patent, because many people don't realize you can still buy Duncans in double cream.

    I did not say THIS pickup was not pre-Dimarzio (in fact I said it does look old).

    I did not discuss old solder points or basplate stamps or any of the stuff that seems to be causing heartache with what I said.

    I was only discussing the issue of double cream.

    Oh, and its not a copyright, its a trademark, number 73150505 specifically.

    Search the US Trademark and Patent Office at www.uspto.gov

    Content of the trademark text follows.

    Goods and Services IC 015. US 036. G & S: Electronic Sound Pickup for Guitars. FIRST USE: 19740200. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19740200
    Mark Drawing Code (2) DESIGN ONLY
    Design Search Code 22.01.25 - Batons, orchestra conductor's; Bows, violin; Conductor's wands, batons; Drumsticks (musical instrument); Harmonicas; Instrument cases (musical); Music stands; Picks, guitar; Wands, conductors' and magicians'
    26.11.27 - Oblongs not used as carriers for words, letters or designs
    Serial Number 73150505
    Filing Date December 1, 1977
    Current Filing Basis 1A
    Original Filing Basis 1A
    Published for Opposition June 23, 1981
    Registration Number 1169205
    Registration Date September 15, 1981
    Owner (REGISTRANT) DiMarzio Musical Instrument Pickups, Inc. CORPORATION NEW YORK 643 Bay St. Staten Island NEW YORK 10304

    (LAST LISTED OWNER) DIMARZIO, INC. CORPORATION BY ASSIGNMENT NEW YORK 1338 RICHMOND TERRACE PO BOX 100387 STATEN ISLAND NEW YORK 10310
    Assignment Recorded ASSIGNMENT RECORDED
    Description of Mark The mark comprises the double design representation of an electronic sound pickup for guitars, which is disclaimed apart from the mark as shown. AND IS LINED FOR THE COLOR YELLOW WHICH RESEMBLES THE DISTINCTIVE SHADE OF CREAM.
    Type of Mark TRADEMARK
    Register PRINCIPAL-2(F)
    Affidavit Text SECT 15. SECT 8 (6-YR). SECTION 8(10-YR) 20010928.
    Renewal 1ST RENEWAL 20010928
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    Quote Originally Posted by TattooedCarrot View Post
    You're completely missing my point, and being a dick about it too.

    Are we done? because I didn't come in here to fight or get S**t on
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    Quote Originally Posted by TattooedCarrot View Post
    You're completely missing my point, and being a dick about it too.

    My point, was "merely" to point out that just because a Duncan is double cream, doesn't automatically mean it has to be pre-Dimarzio patent, because many people don't realize you can still buy Duncans in double cream.

    Actually, double creme is not available from Duncan anymore.

    Not even with the wink-wink nudge super-secret endorse handshake.

    Those days are gone at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J Moose View Post
    Actually, double creme is not available from Duncan anymore.

    Not even with the wink-wink nudge super-secret endorse handshake.

    Those days are gone at this point.
    http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/pick...rly-gates.html

    Erm... in this thread somebody's just telling he's getting a Custom Shop PG set in double-creme...

    Looks like the "wink, wink, nudge, nudge, say no more" routine is still working...
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    Quote Originally Posted by LtKojak View Post
    http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/pick...rly-gates.html

    Erm... in this thread somebody's just telling he's getting a Custom Shop PG set in double-creme...

    Looks like the "wink, wink, nudge, nudge, say no more" routine is still working...
    Interesting. But I'd only believe it when I see 'em installed.

    I asked, on I think Wednesday or Thursday of this week if I could get a double creme bucker for my PRS and the answer was a non-sugar coated "nope, can't do that... not even for you."

    Double white, no problem. Maybe you can tint it up with shoe polish...

    P-rails come in creme... not really feeling 'em for my particular ride though.
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    To the OP: what was on the sticker before you took it off? (hey, you never know )
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    I'm soooooo jealous about the WR-1. It's the perfect guitar; fantastic to play, balances well even when seated and *great* reach for the upper frets. The sound is bright tight and very articulate. In summary it could only be more awesome if it had **** and was on fire!
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