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    Default Humbuckers and 250K volume pot ?

    What humbuckers sound better suited to 250K pots ?

    The pickup in my Musicman is simply too harsh, even with a 250k pot and it's gotta go.
    The guitar's Alder/ Maple neck

    I'm thinking maybe JB or possibly Lollar Imperial ?

    John Suhr's opinion is that only PAF derivatives respond to the lower pot value.

    The guitar has to cover a lot of tonal ground so the pickup has to be versatile and also split well with my 5/2 mid single.

    Opinions please , but ignore the 78 please because I hated it.

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    Default Re: Humbuckers and 250K volume pot ?

    JB's are kind of harsh, so I wouldn't jump on one of those unless you put an A8 in it. Many players use JB's with 250K's to tame it's ice pick spike. The Custom series is very versatile and works well with the several stock magents (Custom, CC, and C5), and with replacement magents (C8 and C4).

    In spite of any advice to the contrary that you may have heard, I use 250K's on almost all my bridge PU's, as do some other players here. They balance better with the neck PU's EQ, and that allows you to dial in one amp EQ setting that works great for both PU's, instead of just one. Bridge slots are bright, sharp, and thin to begin with due to the reduced string vibration, and some of us just can't see using pot values that make that more extreme. A bridge PU with an A5 magnet is bound to be pretty bright, even if it's overwound. Bright location, bright magnet, bright pots = treble overdose.

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    Default Re: Humbuckers and 250K volume pot ?

    For an all around pickup, I'd recommend the Dimarzio PAF PRO or Virtual hot PAF.
    The paf pro is what I have in the bridge of my #1 gigging strat (which has 250k pots of course).
    I've also tried the virtual hot paf in the same guitar with great results.

    I've also been meaning to try the Paf Joe, air classic, and fred.
    It think those would work well with 250k pots.
    Another bonus is that Dimarzios always split well.

    On the duncan side, I think the PG would work.

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    Default Re: Humbuckers and 250K volume pot ?

    Personally, I dont like 250k's with ANY 'buckers. I'd rather use beefy singles or stacks in the neck and mid so that I can use the bridge 'bucker I want.
    Ain't nothin' but a G thang, baby.

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    Default Re: Humbuckers and 250K volume pot ?

    The guitar's already got the Dimarzio PAF it came with as standard.
    it's toneless.

    Benjy, I love the singles I've got, they're perfect.

    It's the humbucker I need to replace.

    I like a balanced pickup, on the warm side, not too powerful.

    I love my Anderson H2+ but it won't work with 250K pots, Anderson says it smothers it.

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    Default Re: Humbuckers and 250K volume pot ?

    What's wrong with the PAF? what do you want more/less of?
    Ain't nothin' but a G thang, baby.

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    Default Re: Humbuckers and 250K volume pot ?

    it's one dimensional and toneless.

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    Default Re: Humbuckers and 250K volume pot ?

    Quote Originally Posted by wolf5150 View Post
    it's one dimensional and toneless.
    I prefer Duncan PAF's over DMz's.

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    Default Re: Humbuckers and 250K volume pot ?

    Quote Originally Posted by wolf5150 View Post
    it's one dimensional and toneless.
    Too dark? too compressed? Needs more mids? The more detailed the description of the issue, the more relevant the responses you get will be. Otherwise, you'll just get a list of what people use in their own guitars.
    Ain't nothin' but a G thang, baby.

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    Default Re: Humbuckers and 250K volume pot ?

    It's very bright, harsh and sterile sounding with very little bottom end.

    It's an acoustically good sounding guitar but the pickup doesn't transmit it.

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    Default Re: Humbuckers and 250K volume pot ?

    If you think the Dimarzio PAF is harsh, bright, and brittle, you may want to start thinking about med-high output pickups and staying away from PAF copies in this guitar.

    For your situation, I'd try the PATB-3, Custom Custom (with shortened pole piece screws), or the PATB-1b. The JB should work well too.
    Ain't nothin' but a G thang, baby.

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    Default Re: Humbuckers and 250K volume pot ?

    Quote Originally Posted by wolf5150 View Post
    What humbuckers sound better suited to 250K pots ?

    The pickup in my Musicman is simply too harsh, even with a 250k pot and it's gotta go.
    The guitar's Alder/ Maple neck

    I'm thinking maybe JB or possibly Lollar Imperial ?

    John Suhr's opinion is that only PAF derivatives respond to the lower pot value.

    The guitar has to cover a lot of tonal ground so the pickup has to be versatile and also split well with my 5/2 mid single.

    Opinions please , but ignore the 78 please because I hated it.
    Honestly, I like 250k with most HB's. The JB and 59 in particular smooth out just right with 250k pots.

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    Default Re: Humbuckers and 250K volume pot ?

    I think I'll try a JB.

    It must be the most popular pickup for a reason.

    Everyone seems to recommend it for Alder/maple, which is what my guitar is.

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    Default Re: Humbuckers and 250K volume pot ?

    Quote Originally Posted by wolf5150 View Post
    I think I'll try a JB.

    It must be the most popular pickup for a reason.

    Everyone seems to recommend it for Alder/maple, which is what my guitar is.
    That's where JB's are at their best.

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