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    Quote Originally Posted by JB6464 View Post
    It states the top wood is Carved Muir from a rainforest. And the fingerboard is Preciosa.

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    Update, after talking to Gibson today on the phone they state the Muir top on the body is closer to a maple cap in tones. And the Preciosa fretboard is in between that of rosewood and ebony.
    Could explain why the guitar is bright as with the chambered body.
    Last edited by JB6464; 10-07-2010 at 09:05 AM.

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    Default Re: Calling Aceman for LP pu advice !

    In that case, it makes sense. You're not getting the depth or body of the solid mahogany. Still, it shouldn't be that far off that a decent pup selection wouldn't get you there. I mean, a LP is still a LP.

    I'm wondering if the AP2s wouldn't give it what you're looking for...

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    Default Re: Calling Aceman for LP pu advice !

    Quote Originally Posted by JB6464 View Post
    Update, after talking to Gibson today on the phone they state the Muir top on the body is closer to a maple cap in tones. And the Preciosa fretboard is in between that of rosewood and ebony.
    Could explain why the guitar is bright as with the chambered body.
    Knowing that, I'd put an UOA5 in the bridge, or maybe even a RC A2. I think the right magnets can get the tones you want out of your existing PU's. Were pot values mentioned yet? The bridge should have 250k/300K.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blueman335 View Post
    Knowing that, I'd put an UOA5 in the bridge, or maybe even a RC A2. I think the right magnets can get the tones you want out of your existing PU's. Were pot values mentioned yet? The bridge should have 250k/300K.
    It originally came with 300k pots , but has been changed to CTS 500k pots now.
    Also has a bone nut.

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    See - what I just read was that the guitar needs some bass boom, a bit o mids, and not so much highs....

    Bass + mids = DiMarzio

    Or an A2P.

    This thing is not tonally very LP at all. And a pup with booty may still not sound good - it will just remind you waht it doesn't have even louder...
    Quote Originally Posted by jon the art guy View Post
    Aceman, your advice was a rich tapestry of hard-fought research, blood, sweat and tears and the homespun wisdom we've all learned to expect and relish from our itinerant face-painted lunatic. I would like to award you a internet trophy for "best comment on a proco rat discussion". Let it be written in the annals of history; Aceman sure as heck helped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aceman View Post
    See - what I just read was that the guitar needs some bass boom, a bit o mids, and not so much highs....

    Bass + mids = DiMarzio

    Or an A2P.

    This thing is not tonally very LP at all. And a pup with booty may still not sound good - it will just remind you waht it doesn't have even louder...
    Thanks Aceman for your advise.
    Yea it's definitely a different monster all together,not normal.
    What DMiarzio would you recommend ?
    The only DiMarzo pu i ever used is the Super Distortion years ago.

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    Why not go with a Super D?
    Quote Originally Posted by jon the art guy View Post
    Aceman, your advice was a rich tapestry of hard-fought research, blood, sweat and tears and the homespun wisdom we've all learned to expect and relish from our itinerant face-painted lunatic. I would like to award you a internet trophy for "best comment on a proco rat discussion". Let it be written in the annals of history; Aceman sure as heck helped.

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    Default Re: Calling Aceman for LP pu advice !

    Major Update:
    After looking over the complete guitar setup again baffled by the flat/thin sound out of a chambered LP studio i found the problem.
    The strings pass over the saddles correctly then hit the back side of the bridge piece traveling at a steep angle down to the tailpiece. For some reason i completely did'nt see this at first.
    So if i raise the tailpiece to help clear the strings off the bridge it would have to hang 1/2 in the air. So i choose to top wrap the strings over the tailpiece and leave the tailpiece flush to the body instead and the strings cleared the backside of the bridge and major Mojo returned.
    Now the guitar rings and sustains correctly with a balanced tone.
    I'm thinking a JB would wake it up some more with 80's tones i'm chasing.
    As for the 498T , i still think it sounds thin and sucks. It's got that Burstbucker kind of tone going on that just annoys me. At this point i'm not sure a mag swap will make me like the 498T pickup. I'm sure the winding in it along with the magnet has something to do with it's overall tones.
    So it's like having a new guitar again at this point.
    Last edited by JB6464; 10-08-2010 at 06:34 AM.

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    Default Re: Calling Aceman for LP pu advice !

    Get a SG! nice and smooth sounding
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    Default Re: Calling Aceman for LP pu advice !

    Quote Originally Posted by ken361 View Post
    Get a SG! nice and smooth sounding
    You might as well play a strat with humbuckers. Not enough ass in a SG.

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    Default Re: Calling Aceman for LP pu advice !

    The strings hitting the backside of the bridge made that much difference in tone?!
    Originally Posted by IanBallard
    Rule of thumb... the more pot you have, the better your tone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuitarDoc View Post
    The strings hitting the backside of the bridge made that much difference in tone?!
    Yup, made the guitar thin and flat sounding. The thinness is probably from the metal on metal of the strings riding on the steel bridge. And the flat lifeless tones i believe are from the strings not vibrating normally since the strings were laying on the bridge. Definitely made a huge difference.

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    Default Re: Calling Aceman for LP pu advice !

    Great. I'll have to check my guitars and make sure none of the strings are hitting.
    Originally Posted by IanBallard
    Rule of thumb... the more pot you have, the better your tone.

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