help with my other guitar

[metalmachine]

so i have really found what i was looking for in my carvin with a duncan distortion. here are the specs for it.

neck thru construction
25" scale
koa neck and body
ebony fretboard
original floyd rose

now i have a jackson sl-1
neck thru construction
25.5" scale
maple neck alderbody
ebony fretboard
original floyd rose

now the jackson is quite a bit brighter so here are my ideas for a simular sound in the jackson that i have in my carvin

option 1
the gibson 500t in the bridge. mainly because i hear it is close to the distortion but a bit darker. the big con though is gibson doesnt make f spaced.

option 2
get a duncan distortion but wire it with 250 or 300K pots (suggestion on that needed).

any input or other suggestions would be appreciated.

[MojoMonster]

SD PATB.
Try it with a 500K pot.
If that's too bright use a different cap.
Lower to 250/300K as necessary.j

Or TB11 Custom Custom covered.

MM

[metalmachine]

patb is definitely a option but i am afraid it will be too compressed. i dunno?
i think the tb-14 will be too spongy and not bright enough though

[King IzzO)))]

500T is trem spaced dude. Same spacing as a Duncan TB.

[metalmachine]

really! well that is wonderful. are gibson bridges wider now?

[King IzzO)))]

Everything with a "nashville" has the wide spacing.

I like the suggestion of a PATB-2 though, if I hadn't run across another El Diablo I'd be trying one.

[Jackson Distortion]

What happened to the JB and '59 that originally come with the SL-1?

[metalmachine]

jb was sold because the low end was too soft. i felt the pup overall was not aggressive enough for my likings. this guitar is hss so the 59 was never there. your thinking of the sl-2

[Despair]

If you like the Distortion, very high odds you'll love the PATB-2 Parallel Axis Distortion in a brighter guitar.

The PATB pickups have a really odd feel, they feel oddly open for their output. Very responsive even when pushing an amp into heavy distortion. More or less retain that behavior with modellers, too. [At least, as long as you aren't pushing the input into clipping...]

If you find the output too high, just back off the guitar volume a bit.

If you want a little more alnico squish, the PATB-1 Original Parallel Axis is amazing. Very similar to both the Custom 5 and the Custom Custom, with tight bass and good treble, but even better midrange. Sings on lead, crunches on rhythm. Ridiculous range of classic to metal tones. Extremely responsive to volume & tone control.

All depends on what you want from the guitar, different tones, or something close to your Carvin. I'd go for the PATB-2, but then, I have a PATB-1 in my Ibanez...

[metalmachine]

so you dont think it would lack in highs. i had the alt8 in the jackson and that was my only complaint with it. i have carvin v3 amp and i run the presence low to avoid fizz. so a bright pup is good. but like i said i like the distortion in my carvin which is a decently warm guitar so obouisly i dont want it too bright.
basicly you guys think the patb-2 would be simular in my jackson to the tb-6 in my carvin?

nobody seems to like the idea of the 500t. do you all think it would still be too bright

[Despair]

I'm less familiar with Gibson pickups than Seymour Duncan. Plus you specifically said you like the TB-6. The PATB-2 is very similar to the TB-6, except for rolling the presence off a bit, and being much thicker and a bit louder.

It's a sweeter, thicker take on the Distortion, but it's still very closely related.

Gibsons usually have a grainier sound than Seymour Duncans, they use different alloys in their polepieces, a heavier screw head and I think a different threading, which is too bad, I'd be curious what their screws sound like in Duncans.

I think it'd do exactly what you asked for. Plus I think it's a better lead pickup than the TB-6. The TB-6 is usually slightly better for biting rhythms, but the PATB-2 is better for riffs. All of that is in a dark to medium guitar. In a bright guitar, I'd expect everything to favor the PATB-2. I don't think the PATB-2 would be too dark at all, I like it in the mahogany guitars I've heard it in.

It's difficult to predict exactly what will happen, every guitar has it's own unique qualities, and tastes and how people hear things vary.

Is the Alt8 overall too dark, or do you just want a bit more bite? If the latter, you could drop in hex screws. But that wont make it sound precisely like the Distortion.

[King IzzO)))]

Gibsons usually have a grainier sound than Seymour Duncans, they use different alloys in their polepieces, a heavier screw head and I think a different threading, which is too bad, I'd be curious what their screws sound like in Duncans.

I've used Gibson screws in Duncans and vice-versa with no problem. The Gibson screws do seem a lot softer.

[metalmachine]

i think you guys might be selling me on the patb 2

the alt 8 was a bit dark but over all i wanted more bite. the alt 8 was heavy like a bowling ball. the distortion is heavy like a bowling ball with razors taped to it

[metalmachine]

i just got thinking what about a tb-5 duncan custom

[Despair]

i just got thinking what about a tb-5 duncan custom

More open, less compressed, can be too bright in maple neck-through, ebony fretboard Floyds. Will have less midrange, particularly less lower mids, than the PATB-2. Less scream, more vintage tone.

Wont sound much like the other guitar with it's TB-6 Distortion. The ceramic Custom doesn't have the upper mid focus that makes the Distortion so wild for rhythm (and leads), nor as much of the gritty presence that makes the Distortion killer for metal rhythm and riffs.

The ceramic Custom has a nice bass punch, and a pretty balanced tone in a thicker mahogany guitar like a Les Paul. Very popular for rock & metal.

The PATB-2 is sadly underused, and designed to do exactly what you seem to want: beef up a thinner, floyded superstrat, while sounding much like their standard Distortion.

[metalmachine]

ok thanks man

guess i need to get the patb 2

[Jackson Distortion]

I'd never put a DD in my USA Soloist. That'd scare the bejeezus outta me. hahahaha

I mean the destruction it would wreak...

I'm atually suprised the JB works so well in such this guitar even though I like it there.

[dr. ad]

i'm wondering how an alt8 or PATB2 would sound in that thing...