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    Default Is the piano a percussion or string instrument?

    Me and my buddies were debating this last night. I was always taught that the piano is a percussion instrument, and that it is often mis-labeled as a string instrument because of it's internal strings. The argument being that mallets hammer the strings to create the sound, and the harder or softer you strike the strings changes the sound.

    My buddy, who is a piano player, said it's a string instrument. I tried looking it up online and all I found was an extensive debate on this issue with no final consensus.

    That's when I said: "To the forum"

    So which is it? I still vote percussion because there's no other way to play a piano other than striking the strings, as opposed to the guitar or violin or cello where you you can pick the strings or use a bow.....basically your fingers have direct contact with the strings on those instruments, instead of an intermediate mechanism that strikes the strings.

    Edit: sorry if this thread has been posted before. I tried searching and didn't find anything on the initial results.
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    Default Re: Is the piano a percussion or string instrument?

    Its a percussion string instrument. Hammers and strings.

    Usually Piano music sounds boring, but the test of a good audiophile system is to bring out the dimensionality ad luxiourious texture of the piano note, and to be able to have enough dynamic headroom not to smear the delicate passages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MetalManiac View Post
    Its a percussion string instrument. Hammers and strings.
    fo real? (I should have added an "other" option in the poll.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by hareek View Post
    fo real? (I should have added an "other" option in the poll.)
    Dont mind me. I'm just speculating. I have no idea what it really is.Fun topic though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MetalManiac View Post
    Dont mind me. I'm just speculating. I have no idea what it really is.Fun topic though.
    Yeah we have a couple of smart phones over here right now consulting google and wikipedia. The debate continues......
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    Default Re: Is the piano a percussion or string instrument?

    stringed....
    a violin is played/struck with a bow and its certainly a "string instrument".
    guitars are plucked, strummed, slammed, puched, kicked, teethed, bowed, etc. and those are stringed.... same should apply to piano.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 80's_Metal View Post
    stringed....
    a violin is played/struck with a bow and its certainly a "string instrument".
    guitars are plucked, strummed, slammed, puched, kicked, teethed, bowed, etc. and those are stringed.... same should apply to piano.
    Whens the last time you played guitar with your feet?
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    Default Re: Is the piano a percussion or string instrument?

    If you are looking for a category as used in orchestras it is neither of the two you mentioned (even tho it has little hammers and strings)......the category the piano belongs to is (drum roll please)........keyboard!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gibson175 View Post
    If you are looking for a category as used in orchestras it is neither of the two you mentioned (even tho it has little hammers and strings)......the category the piano belongs to is (drum roll please)........keyboard!
    Seriously? I read somewhere that the "keyboard" is a component of the entire instrument, and to call it such would be like calling a saxophone a "button."
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    Ok my sister is an opera major and she says it's percussion....anything you hit or strike is a percussion instrument. She said to consult the grove music dictionary online. Checking it now......


    Edit: Looks like you have to pay for the Grove Music Dictionary. I'm not doing that. Wikipedia has this page which is a list of percussion instruments and the different types:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...on_instruments

    Piano is a tuned percussion instrument according to this list.
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    Default Re: Is the piano a percussion or string instrument?

    I've always been taught that it is a percussion instrument, although it is treated differently from all the other ones. The internal mechanism is a more complicated version of a marimba for all intents and purposes; a tuned bar/string is struck with a hammer/mallet and resonates through the body to generate the sound.

    A harpsichord or other instrument where the internal strings are plucked would be considered a true string instrument, however. That said, like the piano would be treated differently in a conservatory setting or something like that.

    And in an orchestra, gibson175 is correct, they're considered their own seperate category from both percussion and strings.
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    Stringed. The sound you're hearing is the string vibrating. Unlike the reverberation of a drum tom. Two totally different things. Doesn't matter how that string is struck, it's still a string based instrument. It's like saying the style of slap bass is strictly percussive.

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    http://www.musicinfo4all.co.uk/instr...nstruments.htm

    I was always taught percussive...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLivingDead View Post
    Stringed. The sound you're hearing is the string vibrating. Unlike the reverberation of a drum tom. Two totally different things. Doesn't matter how that string is struck, it's still a string based instrument. It's like saying the style of slap bass is strictly percussive.
    Yes but with bass, your hands always make direct contact with the strings, and slap is a technique or a form of making direct contact, as opposed to plucking the strings. With a piano though, the only way to play it is for the mallets to hit the strings. There's no other way to do it. The act of hitting or striking makes it percussive.
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    Clearly woodwind.

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    Default Re: Is the piano a percussion or string instrument?

    I would think it's a stringed instrument. If it's a percussive instrument, then would a dulcimer be considered a percussive instrument as well, and not a stringed instrument?

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    Default Re: Is the piano a percussion or string instrument?

    percussion.

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    Default Re: Is the piano a percussion or string instrument?

    It's a mechanised string instrument.


    Have you ever seen the Marx Bros. film where " Harpo " destroys a piano and starts playing the frame and strings like a Harp?
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    Default Re: Is the piano a percussion or string instrument?

    According to the late, great Tommy Latham (my first band director) and my university music appreciation teacher (former member of the Dallas Symphony), it is a percussion instrument.

    It absolutely matters how it is played when it comes to instrument classification.

    Where do you find the "melodics" in a symphony or concert band?




    In the percussion section.

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