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    Default Shavin' down that ol' neck.

    Is it possible? Got myself a Lester (don't worry, it's not one of those classics that has to be kept in original condition) with a big ol' '59 neck on it. Sounds good enough, but for my whimpy little girly-man hands, it's a bit of a baseball bat.

    So, whaddya guys think? Is it actually possible to shave it down and re-finish it, or would I end up with useless body and an exposed rod (lol)? More importantly, would it actually be cheaper than just getting another one with a slim tapered 60's neck?
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    Default Re: Shavin' down that ol' neck.

    Well, personally, if it's not an "investment instrument", the first thing I'd do is sand that damn paint off the back of the neck and progressively bring it up to a 600 grit finish. You could "shape" the neck with 150 grit or so, by taping/sticking some paper to your hands and run them up and down in typical playing position until you get to the desired shape. I'd rather do that, than shave it or use tools. You could have it refinished but that would be expensive. You might be able to match the color and just use a couple coats of furniture stain.

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    Default Re: Shavin' down that ol' neck.

    I have a CR8 that I'd like to shave down.

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    Default Re: Shavin' down that ol' neck.

    It's actually satin finish on the neck, black, so I dunno, AFAIK, that's a whole lot easier to deal with than a "proper" paintjob
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    they have a modeler that allows you to plug in headphones and hear Page playing
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    I have one of those, it's called an ipod. Can't figure out how to plug in the guitar, but it seems to bluetooth over to the ipod. I sound fanstastic!

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    Is it a Gibson?

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    Color?

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    ... satin finish on the neck, black...
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    they have a modeler that allows you to plug in headphones and hear Page playing
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    I have one of those, it's called an ipod. Can't figure out how to plug in the guitar, but it seems to bluetooth over to the ipod. I sound fanstastic!

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    Is it a Gibson?

    Color?

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    I think you ought to trade it for one with a 60's neck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aceman View Post
    I think you ought to trade it for one with a 60's neck.
    +1. Mess with the neck and you'll ruin the resale value (in spite of whimpering to the contrary, most end up getting sold at some point, often for unforeseen reasons). Much better to sell it, or trade it, for one with a neck you like. Then that guitar will retain it's value. There's lots of LP's around, no need to mess up the finish and wood on yours. If you do that, what if you still don't like it, or want something else later on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blueman335 View Post
    +1. Mess with the neck and you'll ruin the resale value (in spite of whimpering to the contrary, most end up getting sold at some point, often for unforeseen reasons). Much better to sell it, or trade it, for one with a neck you like. Then that guitar will retain it's value. There's lots of LP's around, no need to mess up the finish and wood on yours. If you do that, what if you still don't like it, or want something else later on?
    "Whimpering?"

    Whatev.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aceman View Post
    I think you ought to trade it for one with a 60's neck.
    I agree, but I don't know how easy that would be in Sweden.

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    I think you ought to trade it for one with a 60's neck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aceman View Post
    I think you ought to trade it for one with a 60's neck.
    I know low post count, but why screw with a original/vintage neck. Buy a replacement.
    Got Wood?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodworker View Post
    I know low post count, but why screw with a original/vintage neck. Buy a replacement.
    "60's" refers to the profile, not the actual year.

    A '50's neck is thicker, so you would sell/trade for the same guitar with a '60's profile neck (thinner).
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    not to hijack, but I have a related/slightly diff question.. On a guitar with a raw/oiled neck, (charvel) with a small ding in it, can that be sanded out alil with a fine grit paper?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BloodRose View Post
    not to hijack, but I have a related/slightly diff question.. On a guitar with a raw/oiled neck, (charvel) with a small ding in it, can that be sanded out alil with a fine grit paper?
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    Default Re: Shavin' down that ol' neck.

    its gonna need grain filling and sealing after but it is doable (asuming you dont sand through so far the truss rod is exposed) id ask a tech/luthier how much they'd charge.
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    Black nitro (Gibson USA is always nitro) is probably the easiest to re-paint in a decent looking manner. But very labor intensive and you would face the problem if covering the fretboard and putting the axe out of action for weeks.

    I also don't understand how a Gibson can have a "satin" finish? Is it a faded?

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    Quote Originally Posted by uOpt View Post
    Black nitro (Gibson USA is always nitro) is probably the easiest to re-paint in a decent looking manner. But very labor intensive and you would face the problem if covering the fretboard and putting the axe out of action for weeks.
    Incorrectamundo, my rockin' amigo. The Gibson Gothic series (original run was between '98 and '02, I believe) sported a smashing looking, but sadly, less than durable satin finish all over. The upside being, however, a very smooth neck indeed. And, in the process, also a very sturdy basis for insta-relicing your axe (mine is 9 years, going on 17...)

    http://www.google.se/images?hl=sv&q=...w=1440&bih=813

    You'll also notice a few ones with a slightly more matted finish, no 12th fret inlay and EMG pickups, which was released later on - the Gothic II series. Which is a bit of a conundrum, since it was never (AFAIK) published on the gibson website.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ehdwuld View Post
    they have a modeler that allows you to plug in headphones and hear Page playing
    Quote Originally Posted by Scott_F View Post
    I have one of those, it's called an ipod. Can't figure out how to plug in the guitar, but it seems to bluetooth over to the ipod. I sound fanstastic!

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    Isn't that the same thing that you have on the back of the neck as the faded series?

    It's just paint after being too lazy to use a filler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uOpt View Post
    Isn't that the same thing that you have on the back of the neck as the faded series?

    It's just paint after being too lazy to use a filler.
    Pretty much. Just found this:

    some instruments are finished with a flat, low gloss, or satin lacquer. The dull or satin finish is precisely the same material as its glossy counterpart; it just has a chemical additive to make it dry with a particular degree of sheen. Satin or flat finishes are frequently used on less expensive models because they save labor, requiring no final leveling and polishing. Some manufacturers use a satin finish on the neck, and gloss on the body. The low gloss finish is quite popular for use in performance because it doesn't reflect stage lighting. Lots of players simply prefer the look, too.
    - taken from http://www.frets.com/fretspages/musi...nishintro.html



    As a body finish, it looks pretty cool early on, but, sadly, wears off pretty quickly, and doesn't stad up to scratches and dings as well.
    On the back of the neck, however, it's quite useful, as it tends to get less sticky than some high gloss finishes. It works better there, too, since the neck is rarely exposed to the same type of wear and tear as the body.

    But yeah, it IS indeed pretty much another sneaky Gibson trick so save some pennies.
    Quote Originally Posted by ehdwuld View Post
    they have a modeler that allows you to plug in headphones and hear Page playing
    Quote Originally Posted by Scott_F View Post
    I have one of those, it's called an ipod. Can't figure out how to plug in the guitar, but it seems to bluetooth over to the ipod. I sound fanstastic!

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