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    Default Diagram for P rail, 2 SC, 2 Tone, 1 Vol, 5 Way, 2 Mini Tog

    Hey, hows it going? This is my first time on board, and I bring with me a question. But first. I Recently had a shop put a P-rails in my Strat down in the bridge, along with a mini toggle to turn the bridge PU on when ever I wanted. Say for example, if I where using the neck/middle position and wanted to add the bridge PU to the mix I could just hit the mini toggle. I tested it at the music store, and the P-rails was excellent, the mini toggle for the P-rail coil splitting was in working order, the 5 way was working fine, the tone controls were working just as I requested (top one for neck and middle, bottom one for bridge), but the mini toggle was working backwards. Instead of turning on the P-rail, it turned the damn thing off. The music store staff called up the the tech who worked on my guitar. When he explained what he thought was correct, He sounded completely backwards. I wrote him detailed directions on what I wanted.
    Now, I would like to know is there anyone who can help me find a wiring diagram for a Strat with a P-rails in the bridge, 1 Vol, 2 Tones (top pot for neck/middle, bottom pot for bridge), 5 way switch, 1 mini toggle for splitting P-rail coils, 1 mini toggle to turn bridge PU on at anytime. I paid $85.00 for that job to be done, and I want my monies worth. I would like to take a diagram back to that tech and show him what I'm talking about, so he doesn't F#&k-up again. Or I'll just fix it myself and they will have to chalk me up as a lost customer.

    P.S. "If you want something done right, you gotta do it yourself!" Thanks guys!
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    Default Re: Diagram for P rail, 2 SC, 2 Tone, 1 Vol, 5 Way, 2 Mini Tog

    So wait, everything works like you wanted *except* that the mini-toggle turns the bridge pickup OFF when using the neck+middle pickups instead of ON?

    So the bridge pickup is actually on in the places you want it to be?


    Or are you saying the switch turns the pickup off even when you've got it selected on the 5-way?


    Here's the diagram for the "bridge pickup anywhere" switch:
    http://www.seymourduncan.com/support...ic=switch_f_bp

    Here's the H-S-S with 5-way and splitter (Push-pull or DPDT mini toggle):
    http://www.seymourduncan.com/support...2s_1v_2t_5w_pp

    And the same thing but autosplitting with the 5-way:
    http://www.seymourduncan.com/support...2s_1v_2t_5w_as
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    I'm soooooo jealous about the WR-1. It's the perfect guitar; fantastic to play, balances well even when seated and *great* reach for the upper frets. The sound is bright tight and very articulate. In summary it could only be more awesome if it had **** and was on fire!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrNewcenstein View Post
    So wait, everything works like you wanted *except* that the mini-toggle turns the bridge pickup OFF when using the neck+middle pickups instead of ON?

    So the bridge pickup is actually on in the places you want it to be?


    Or are you saying the switch turns the pickup off even when you've got it selected on the 5-way?


    Here's the diagram for the "bridge pickup anywhere" switch:
    http://www.seymourduncan.com/support...ic=switch_f_bp

    Here's the H-S-S with 5-way and splitter (Push-pull or DPDT mini toggle):
    http://www.seymourduncan.com/support...2s_1v_2t_5w_pp

    And the same thing but autosplitting with the 5-way:
    http://www.seymourduncan.com/support...2s_1v_2t_5w_as
    Yes, everything works like a normally configured Strat. Now the P-rails PU works normally with the 5 way, and it's own 3 position mini toggle. The other mini toggle was installed so I could turn ON the bridge PU whenever I'm in the neck, or neck/middle position. Other than that, the bridge PU works in a normal 5 way configuration. The tech had it totally backwards. When I flick the toggle it turns the bridge PU OFF no matter were it is. That's not what I wanted.
    I really appreacaited the diagram links, but I need one to include the P-rails PU and it's toggle switch. I've been surfing, but I don't think anyone has a diagram of that yet.
    Tuesday I have to take my guitar in to that tech's shop, pull it apart, and show him face to face what I'm talking about.
    I just had an epiphany! There is only one half decent music store in the 75 mile radius here from Durham North Carolina, and that one shop. I think when I start college next year I'll be taking some classes in electronics. This one horse towns needs more than one tech... Peace Bro and thanks. I'll keep-a-post'in!
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    Default Re: Diagram for P rail, 2 SC, 2 Tone, 1 Vol, 5 Way, 2 Mini Tog



    P-Rails wired to its splitter as shown in this diagram:
    http://www.seymourduncan.com/support..._1v_1t_3w_mini

    Then instead of going to the switch as shown in that diagram, the lead from the mini toggle goes like the bridge black in this diagram:
    http://www.seymourduncan.com/support...ic=switch_f_bp

    The singles and 5-way also follow that diagram.

    Since you want the Tones reversed from those diagrams (3rd knob is Bridge Tone instead of middle), reverse the wires running to those pots from the switch.
    Quote Originally Posted by Brown Note View Post
    I'm soooooo jealous about the WR-1. It's the perfect guitar; fantastic to play, balances well even when seated and *great* reach for the upper frets. The sound is bright tight and very articulate. In summary it could only be more awesome if it had **** and was on fire!
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    Default Re: Diagram for P rail, 2 SC, 2 Tone, 1 Vol, 5 Way, 2 Mini Tog

    I think this drawing should be what you're looking for:


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    Default Re: Diagram for P rail, 2 SC, 2 Tone, 1 Vol, 5 Way, 2 Mini Tog

    Thanks Guys, with your help I got it right. This thing is freaking crazy, I can get a Tele out of it man! A Tele!!! And Then I can get this Funk sound that's just stinky with the wha-wha, it's nasty man! Thanks Dudes...
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