HOW TO: Make a 59/Custom Hybrid

[murky69nz]

Slight detour as this thread has me thinking....

Are the coils on a prails mismatched? Been digging their sound in HB mode lately...

[jimijames]

Slight detour as this thread has me thinking....

Are the coils on a prails mismatched? Been digging their sound in HB mode lately...

Yep, although I don't know if they use different wire size or not - not that it matters with the patent, seeing as they use very different amounts of wire. But yes, the p-rails are mismatched. What I'm amazed about with them is that the folks at SD got a single coil in series with a p-90, and furthermore, that they made it sound good.

Oh well, I don't care how they do it as long as they keep doing it. Great stuff.

[hswarth]

CAN you effectively use one moded HB like this in the bridge with a single coil in the neck and no middle pick up?

[super rad stuff]

CAN you effectively use one moded HB like this in the bridge with a single coil in the neck and no middle pick up?

you can do anything with this pickup that you would a regular humbucker, it's still got standard humbucker dimensions so i don't see why you couldn't.

[EEF13]

So what do you do with the left over coils?

[GoDrex]

So what do you do with the left over coils?

you make two

[jake_xms3_punk]

Quote:
Originally Posted by EEF13
So what do you do with the left over coils?

you make two

then you sell the other one to me

[dominus]

Made a cheap hybrid out of some GFS pickups, gonna have to try some others.

http://www.seymourduncan.com/forum/s...1&postcount=29

[jake_xms3_punk]

seriously if u have a spare one sell me it! pm me! lol

[DrNewcenstein]

you make two

Yup. Since you're taking half of two pickups, you're left with the other half of the same two pickups. Make two hybrids and put them in another guitar, or in the neck of the same guitar, or sell it to Jake

I put both of mine in the same guitar - 59b/JB (black coils are the JB).



p.s. Finally found some knobs that fit those tiny EMG pot holes

[super rad stuff]

Yup. Since you're taking half of two pickups, you're left with the other half of the same two pickups. Make two hybrids and put them in another guitar, or in the neck of the same guitar, or sell it to Jake

I put both of mine in the same guitar - 59b/JB (black coils are the JB).



p.s. Finally found some knobs that fit those tiny EMG pot holes

i did that one.

[Elfunkenstein]

What do you think about the idea of a GFS vintage '59/crunchy pat hybrid?

[Elfunkenstein]

so...has anyone posted any clips of the hybrid yet?

[GoDrex]

I recorded a song using my 59/C5 - but I doubt you're going to hear anything in it that would stand out regarding the pickup.

[Elfunkenstein]

how does the 59/jb sound?

[GoDrex]

how does the 59/jb sound?

I'd assume that the coils are too mismatched - - but you could do it.

[YellowJacket]

Ok, this thread is really inspirational. I've had a few interesting ideas.

1) I have a Godin LG with an Alnico II Pro in the Neck and a Custom Custom in the bridge. My idea was to get a Stag Mag and replace one of the coils from each of the formerly mentioned pickups with the coils from the Stag Mag so that I can coil tap the Godin and get a proper single coil tone.

Which coils would have to be replaced? The top or bottom ones. I'm not sure how the coil tap wiring works although I suppose I should check that out.

2) If I do this mod, I will have two coils left over, one from an Alnico II Pro and one from a Custom Custom. I want to get another pickup and make hybrids for neck (combined with alnico II pro) and bridge (custom custom) for my Les Paul. (Standard Premium Plus)

Currently, I have Burstbucker Pros in it and my complaint is that the tone is uneven. Basically, the bass from the neck pickup greatly outbalances the lack of the bass from the bridge one. The guitar is really equipped to do everything from blues and jazz to very heavy uber gain saturated rock and the result is that the low to mid gain tones sound thin, brittle, and terrible with the bridge pickup. Contrarily, I'm looking for something that sounds much more even with a mid emphasized classic crunch. I want pickups that are better balanced so that I can choose more than one pickup for clean and gain tones.

For tone, I'm kind of torn. My absolute favourite Seymour Duncans have to be the Alnico II Pro and Custom Custom. The '59 is a close second. Still, I'm thinking combining the coils left over from the Godin mod with something more high output like an invader could be interesting. (I hear PRS combines Alnico II bars with ceramic ones for warmth and higher output) About the Gibson, it really is my main axe so I want it to haul but at the same time, it would be fun to take a risk and try something slightly unique. In my experience, pickups either work or they don't work with any given guitar so this could be the best thing ever or it could be terrible.

Thoughts on this?

[Got_tone?]

What's the position for the stag mag? Try sticking to neck w/neck and bridge w/bright hybrids. IIRC, BTR said that the bottom coil produces a decent single coil tone.

Lately, I've been tempted into trying a '78/Custom Hybrid but both those p'ups are my favorite ones. They're "rare" cream HBs and both have a certain mojo to them, so I ain't messing around with them.....

[YellowJacket]

The Stag Mag only has one model but it is one that can be used either in the bridge or neck? http://www.seymourduncan.com/product.../sh3_stag_mag/ It would be much more convenient if they had a separate neck and bridge model.

So you suggest only combining a bridge pickup with a bridge pickup or a neck pickup with a neck pickup? I was under the impression--and probably erroneously so--that the difference between a neck and bridge pickup is that the neck is wound less hot so the output balances. That a lot of the tonal differences comes from the position where the pickups are mounted.

If there is a significant difference between neck and bridge pickups, I guess this is why people make extra and sell them. Don't want to let the leftover parts go to waste.

Any ideas for a good ceramic alnico II hybrid? I like both the Duncan Custom and the Custom Custom.

[dvadneau]

You're right about the winding for neck pickups. The strings vibrate more so they make the neck pickups output less. However, changing the number of winds will inherently change the sound. If I understand correctly, this tends to make the neck pickups brighter, which is offset by the position of the pickup.

I took a 59 neck and put it in the bridge - eww. Harsh. An exception for me was the Invader neck, which sounded great in the bridge of my Epi LP Ultra II. It was a little clearer sounding than the bridge pickup and still had plenty of volume.

I have taken many bridge pickups and put them in the neck with great results. For instance, the Custom 5 is the best neck pickup for shredding I have ever used, and I went through almost all of SD's offerings (and many Dimarzios) in the past year. Turning the volume down makes it usable in different scenarios, but turning it up all the way gives an excellent compressed sound that begs for shredding. At least in my guitar it sounded like that.

For the JB/59:

I'd assume that the coils are too mismatched - - but you could do it.

The Custom and JB are similar in winds/output, so are you referring to the tuning? Wouldn't that be good? Possibly an interesting combo - JB has that mid hump, while the 59 is scooped.

I just got a hold of the last pickup in a set I'm going to combine. TB-4/TB-59/TB-14 and SH-4(neck)/SH-1(neck)/SH-14.

I'm a little unsure about 2 things:

1. Combining the neck pickups with the SH-14, in terms of polarity/wiring. The SH-4 neck is a full-on JB (~16k) with the poles switched. I bought it used - I think they came stock in a Randy Rhoads V, but I don't recall exactly which.

2. What combo of the 3, since there are 2 ways to do the sets. TB-4 screw side with TB-59 slug side or TB-14 slug side? Etc.

Any advice would be very much appreciated.