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    Default Re: HOW TO: Make a 59/Custom Hybrid

    Quote Originally Posted by BachToRock
    Not sure I understand your question... what is a screw plate?
    This comes from the lack of knowledge of the terms. You said you had a pref for which coil of the 59/custom hybrid had the screws only when you have a setting to split the coil. Do you also have a favorite when you make the 59/Jazz neck when you have a coil split setting? My Schecter has a 59 neck and the 4th position splits the coil.
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    Default Re: HOW TO: Make a 59/Custom Hybrid

    Quote Originally Posted by dasfonzie
    what are the benefits of the 59/Jazz hybrid? I thought they used the same gauge wire
    Same gauge...
    Different insulation...
    Different wind...
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    Default Re: HOW TO: Make a 59/Custom Hybrid

    Quote Originally Posted by caprae
    This comes from the lack of knowledge of the terms.
    Please enlighten me... what is a "screw plate"
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    Default Re: HOW TO: Make a 59/Custom Hybrid

    Quote Originally Posted by BachToRock
    Please enlighten me... what is a "screw plate"
    You're kiliin' me here BTR

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    Default Re: HOW TO: Make a 59/Custom Hybrid

    I meant the coil with the screws in it that you refer to early in this thread.

    "The main difference is if you wire up a split switch... the Custom Coil sounds better as the split coil... it's around 7.2k which is really nice. That said... it will be Brighter when in split mode if you use the Custom screw/59 slug..."

    Which screw and which slug do you prefer for the 59/jazz neck hybrid whis a split switch?

    I'm just trying to educate myself. I admit that I don't know the names of all of the parts of a pickup. I am open to a good link that breaks one down and shows the parts and describes how each part works. Heck, until I saw your pictures I thought the magnet was inside the coil.
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    Default Re: HOW TO: Make a 59/Custom Hybrid

    I apologize... I thought you were insinuating my "lack of knowledge of the terms"
    I am getting old and have had a glass or three of wine, so I might not be at the peak level of perception at the moment...

    The SLUG coil is the default active coil when splitting a Duncan humbucker...

    It is a matter of personal taste when considering which sounds "best"... I will always state my personal opinion, but somebody else might prefer otherwise.

    That said, both the Jazz Coil and 59 Coil sound great when split since they are pretty similar... the Jazz being a bit more articulate...
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    Default Re: HOW TO: Make a 59/Custom Hybrid

    Quote Originally Posted by BachToRock
    I apologize... I thought you were insinuating my "lack of knowledge of the terms"
    I am getting old and have had a glass or three of wine, so I might not be at the peak level of perception at the moment...

    No way. I'm the weed-hopper here learning from the master (and I'm a good 8 yrs older, too). I've always been afraid to tear apart a pickup but you make it look so easy that I'm willing to try. I should've done some research on exact names of the parts first. All's cool. And a sincere Thank You for your advice, opinions and help.

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    Default Re: HOW TO: Make a 59/Custom Hybrid

    Hey BachToRock,
    Could you direct me to the pics again? I've decided to begin doing this.I have single braided conductor and wondered if this would be a problem. Thanks for all your help!

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    Default Re: HOW TO: Make a 59/Custom Hybrid

    NO! I just got my Jazz neck to go with the 59 neck and was hoping to do it this weekend. Please repost the pics.
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    Default Re: HOW TO: Make a 59/Custom Hybrid

    Please repoet the pics! I just a laid everything out in the work area!!.. came to the computer to print the pics for reference nd ....... OH NO!! hahahahaha

    Please repost! much obliged!

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    Default Re: HOW TO: Make a 59/Custom Hybrid

    bump.. any chance of getting the pictures back? I can host them if you need some space.

    TIA
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    Default Re: HOW TO: Make a 59/Custom Hybrid

    They are gone... I need to take some new ones...
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    Default Re: HOW TO: Make a 59/Custom Hybrid

    Quote Originally Posted by BachToRock
    They are gone... I need to take some new ones...
    I thought you might just be having server problems. I read over your initial post numerous times when you had the pictures, so I've got it pretty much in my head.

    I do have a question, though. My first attempt is going to be with a 59 neck/jazz hybrid.
    1) When I pull these apart with wiring (including colors) be identical on both sides?
    2) If so, its just a matter of switching the two slug coils and soldering up the same as it was originally, only with the new coil in place. Is this correct?

    Thank you much.

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    Default Re: HOW TO: Make a 59/Custom Hybrid

    When you take the tape off, you'll see that both coils have a black and a white wire. It will be the same on all Duncan pups. If you decide to remove the slug coil, you'll be disconnecting another black and white wire. (From the 4-conductor.) If you remove the screw coil, you'll be disconnecting a red and green wire.

    Just make a note on a piece of paper which wires went where before you unsolder them. Then connect the new coil the same way. Its really not so complicated once you get into it and see whats going on.

    Good luck. Watch that soldering iron.

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    Pictures up!
    Don't forget to see post #128...
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    Default Re: HOW TO: Make a 59/Custom Hybrid

    Thank you! I am going to try and get to it this afternoon but if not tomorrow for sure... thanks again BTR!

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    Default Re: HOW TO: Make a 59/Custom Hybrid

    Quote Originally Posted by ArtieToo
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    Good luck. Watch that soldering iron.
    Thank you for the input. I didn't want to get them taken apart and find out the wire colors were different.

    I'm used to (I think the term is) tinning the wires before soldering. Would you recommend doing that for this kind of job? Also, would it add a measure of safety to put an alligator clip on the wire (between the soldering spot and the coil) to help absorb heat if I do get it a smidge too hot?

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    Has anyone tried an F Spaced coil with a regular coil, now that's a hybrid. Magnetic field all over the place. No place the string can go to hide.
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    Default Re: 59/CC wiring question

    Hola B2R & other gurus.

    Attached is a photo of my mid operation pups and I want to be sure before I do the final soldering of exactly what I'm doing!!

    I will be using the pickup on the left which is the custom custom with the '59 slug coil added (might drop the other in the bridge of my PRS just to see what it's like)

    This is how I "think" the wiring should go from reading your posts.....
    The #s refer to the photo I have attached..

    ----CC A2 based hybrid pup (with SD logo)---
    #1 black lead from the bottom of the 59 coil should be soldered to #4 the black lead from the CC coil.

    #2 black lead from the wound part of the 59 coil should be soldered to #3 the white lead from the CC coil

    ----59 A5 based hybrid pup----
    #5 white lead from the CC coil should be soldered to #7 black lead from the 59 coil.

    #6 black lead from the CC coil should be soldered to #8 fat black lead from the 59 coil

    -------------------------

    Does that sound/look right to you guys? If not would you please let me know which # should be soldered to which other #??

    Thanks so much for your help this forum is awesome!
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    Default Re: HOW TO: Make a 59/Custom Hybrid

    You got it right... NICE PHOTO!
    Let's hear your opinion of what you hear after they are installed in the guitars...
    Last edited by BachToRock; 06-27-2006 at 09:00 PM.
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