gave notice last night

[LesStrat]

Tell me about your mother.

[tone4days]

Waitaminute.

$100.

EACH?!

Where is this mythical Shangri La where musicians get paid money to play?!!

we're not musicians, we're beer salesmen

[jeremy]

Waitaminute.

$100.

EACH?!

Where is this mythical Shangri La where musicians get paid money to play?!!

lol. sometimes you even get free food and drinks!



you know you did the right thing bill. you needed to get out and this is basically a text book example of how to do it. id be a little suprised if there isnt a touch more drama before you leave though. ive had a drummer quit the night before a show with two more that week with no warning other than we knew he was having problems at home. thats a ****ty way to go out and is really hard on the rest of the band. we are friends again but it took a few years.

at the moment im actually on the other side of this. there is a band that is losing their guitar player that wants me to join and im tentative.

[guitfiddle]

at the moment im actually on the other side of this. there is a band that is losing their guitar player that wants me to join and im tentative.

Yeah, you gotta ask yourself "If he's leaving, will the same crap happen to me?"

[jeremy]

he is leaving cause hes having hearing issues which has me a little concerned but i know the singer and, while not good, he usually doesnt go crazy loud. its a stones tribute band which is why im tentative. im not that big a stones fan, on the other hand i get to be mick taylor.

[Lazarus1140]

he is leaving cause hes having hearing issues which has me a little concerned but i know the singer and, while not good, he usually doesnt go crazy loud. its a stones tribute band which is why im tentative. im not that big a stones fan, on the other hand i get to be mick taylor.

I have never been a huge stones fan but in the last year have grown in my appreciation for Keith Richards as a guitarist.

There was a great Stones live concert video ..... I think it was Altamont. Have you seen it?

[jeremy]

i think keith does what he does well and i like it but its not what i do. if i had to be keith, i wouldnt take the gig but i think i can do the mick taylor thing.

i have not seen altamont but sounds cool. what era?

[guitfiddle]

he is leaving cause hes having hearing issues which has me a little concerned but i know the singer and, while not good, he usually doesnt go crazy loud. its a stones tribute band which is why im tentative. im not that big a stones fan, on the other hand i get to be mick taylor.

Hear-O ear plugs are your friend, it sounds like.

[aleclee]

Hear-O ear plugs are your friend, it sounds like.

Custom molds. They sound better and are way more comfy.

[guitfiddle]

Custom molds. They sound better and are way more comfy.

Yeah, the comfort level of the Hear-Os isn't the best, but it's just so nice to be able to actually hear after a loud set of rockin tunes.

[Kramer Guy]

You were very professional and gave them more than enough time to find a replacement. It's your bass player who needs to grow up and start being a pro. I've been gigging for over 30 years and I've dealt with his kind before, so trust me, it's not you.

[ItsaBass]

I am curious why gigging with them is such a stressful issue. Is it because the gigs are crummy and don't pay, and no one has any fun?

[tone4days]

I am curious why gigging with them is such a stressful issue. Is it because the gigs are crummy and don't pay, and no one has any fun?

for me, it is a combination ... the overwhelming majority of my stress comes from physical work of tearing down, packing up, and loading out the PA, then driving to the drummer's house and loading it in to storage after a long day and late night ... i have a bad back and bad knees and ankles so the work is just daunting especially at the end of a long day - knowing it is coming all day in advance makes it worse ... if we hired out the sound/lights so i only had to deal with my small rig, it'd be much better ... and i can not be 'that guy' who doesnt help with the PA and just leave it to the other guys

the rest of it is the stress of not knowing when the trainwreck is coming on stage ... i am not a ridiculously gifted player ... i have to concentrate up there to get the singing and playing and soloing to sound as good as i want it to ... the bassist's poor playing really throws me off (and he stands right next to me at every gig) .. take the example of 'sultans of swing' ... i mean, c'mon, that solo is hard to pull off under ideal circumstances and its gotta be like the record 'cus its such a signature thing that the audience expects - i cant just improvise something else instead ... on my best nights, i can play it to an "A-" level ... but if the solo section starts and he is playing the wrong comping changes, i am left hanging out their 'naked' ... people arent gonna know that the bassist is playing the wrong changes, they are gonna think the soloist is clamming it up .. same thing happens on 'you dont love me' or 'southbound' by the allmans ... he cant keep his place during the solos so you never know if he is gonna go the IV or the V at the right time or if he is gonna play the unison riffs in the right place (or at all) ... hard to get an improvised melodic allmans-esque solo going (let alone try to trade 4s or 8s with the other guitarist) if the changes arent gonna be rock solid underneath it all

i dont mind the 'crummy' bars we play in or the pay, i make enough scratch in my day gig to allow playing to be a hobby (like golfers paying greens fees) ...

so yeah, if a new bassist fell outta the sky and we hired out the PA/lights, i'd not feel the stress ...

so there ya go

t4d

ps - yeah, molded hearing protection has been my friend for well over 20 yrs

[crguti]

well, at least it was better than our singer saying one day... "I want to be clear on this, from now on this is my band and I will decide what or not to play".

The singer was kicked out 3 days after.

[Lazarus1140]

i have not seen altamont but sounds cool. what era?

I erroneously called it "Altamont". I was refering to a documentary film titled Gimme Shelter (1970). The concert was in 1969 and included performances by Santana, Jefferson Airplane, The Flying Burrito Brothers, and Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young. The Rolling Stones were the headliners/final act.

The music was outstanding, and the violence was heartbreaking. I didn't attend the concert at Altamont Raceway, but I saw the documentary at a movie theater.