PGn/A2Pb

[Satans Sidekick]

Has anyone tried this combo in a Les Paul or Les Paul-like guitar (like the LTD EC-256)? What did you like about it? What did you not like about it?

[blueman335]

Good combo. PGN's are very popular here, especially in LP's. A2PB's are a little warmer than PGB's (which are fairly bright). Should work very well. You did good.

[GuitarDoc]

Interesting how well those two pups work in a LP, and yet they are both A2 pups. There are those who think that A5 or A4 are the only good mags for the neck.

[blueman335]

Interesting how well those two pups work in a LP, and yet they are both A2 pups. There are those who think that A5 or A4 are the only good mags for the neck.

With the right wind for a neck HB, A2's can keep some treble and give it a huge sound with all those mids. Seymour understands this very well. In my experience, the only Gibsons that are wound right for A2 necks are BB's.

[gripweed]

Interesting how well those two pups work in a LP, and yet they are both A2 pups. There are those who think that A5 or A4 are the only good mags for the neck.

The original Pearly Gates were a5

http://www.seymourduncan.com/forum/s...d.php?t=190662

Blueman is spot on about wind.

The PG A2P sounds like a cool combo!

[blueman335]

Blueman is spot on about wind.

The PG A2P sounds like a cool combo!

+1. With A2's in the neck, the wind makes it or breaks it. You know going into it that the mag has very little treble, so you have to wind it to compensate for that. You can bring out the best qualities in an A2, or you can make it sound muffled. My favorite PAF's are Seth's; a perfect example of the right wind. '57's and 490R's are wound too dark for A2's, too prone to mud; I have to put A5's in mine to get enough clarity. I have Seth's in a few guitars, and have never considered swapping mags in any of them.

[LtKojak]

I have Seth's in a few guitars, and have never considered swapping mags in any of them.

Rick... if you ever want Jimmy Page's tone on Presence, pop two UOA5s in a Seth Lover set and bingo! So close it's scary...

Regards from Lt. Kojak aka "The Lollypop King"

[GuitarDoc]

I almost totally agree. Except for the '57. True it isn't very bright or articulate and isn't good for everything, but when I want a nice creamy overdriven neck lead, that '57 works great. Not for everyone nor every type of music, but great for some.

I also agree that the BB's are really good pups. And one of my favorite neck pups is the Pearly. That just seems to do everything. Haven't really tried the A2P, but I'm sure I'd love it, from all of the comments I've read about it on this forum.

[blueman335]

I also agree that the BB's are really good pups.

+1. Gibson at it's finest.

[GuitarDoc]

Yep. I can't understand why so many people don't like BB's. (But I also really like the BBPro's which many people hate).

[Satans Sidekick]

thanks for your input everyone. this is the first time ever modding my guitar, so i'm pretty excited!

[blueman335]

thanks for your input everyone. this is the first time ever modding my guitar, so i'm pretty excited!

Just wait, there's so much to learn, so much you can do.

Do you do your own set ups? If not, get Dan Erlewine's book 'How to make your electric guitar play great' from StewMac. Totally changed my life as a guitarist.

[Jolly_Rancher]

In a mahogany bodied, set maple neck guitar I have a PGb in the neck and a BB #3 in the bridge. I love the bridge sound, the neck (which is actually the PG "bridge" model) is a little dark... I figured since the BB is the hottest BB wind that they offer then the slightly hotter wind of the PGb would be a good match, but I might have to find a replacement neck pickup someday.

[GuitarDoc]

In a mahogany bodied, set maple neck guitar I have a PGb in the neck and a BB #3 in the bridge. I love the bridge sound, the neck (which is actually the PG "bridge" model) is a little dark... I figured since the BB is the hottest BB wind that they offer then the slightly hotter wind of the PGb would be a good match, but I might have to find a replacement neck pickup someday.

Don't think about replacing that PGb pup quite yet. If you like the way the PGb pairs up with your BB3 as far as output is concerned, but just think it sounds a little dark, just take out the A2 magnet and replace it with an A4. If that's still not bright enough, put in an A5.

[Jolly_Rancher]

Don't think about replacing that PGb pup quite yet. If you like the way the PGb pairs up with your BB3 as far as output is concerned, but just think it sounds a little dark, just take out the A2 magnet and replace it with an A4. If that's still not bright enough, put in an A5.

[Satans Sidekick]

blueman335, i don't do my own setups, but i'd like to know. thanks for the book recommendation, i'm definitely gonna get it.

[Satans Sidekick]

anyone know if the PGn is hotter than the A2Pn? I'm asking because i usually use the neck pickup for rhythm and i'd like the neck a bit hotter or not as soft (as neck pickups usually sounds)... if anyone has any other suggestions?

[GuitarDoc]

anyone know if the PGn is hotter than the A2Pn? I'm asking because i usually use the neck pickup for rhythm and i'd like the neck a bit hotter or not as soft (as neck pickups usually sounds)... if anyone has any other suggestions?

The PGn and the A2Pn are about the same output, but because the PGn has more mids and highs, it will sound a bit stronger and more aggressive. If the PGn isn't hot enough for you, try putting an A8 mag in it. That will give it a bit more output but it will also boost up the mids a bit which will give it even more percieved output.

[Aceman]

Depending on the guitar as always....

That's my "super-balance" combo.

A2p fats up the bridge nicely and adds some balls/bottom. The PG pushes the high end of the neck. You end up with a really balanced sound, which is A2 magnet on the top, with the most/least exactly where you need it.

Again...depending on the guitar.

PGb with A2P neck is the widest ranging combo. Maximum fat to maximum bright. I haven't done PG/A2P in forever. I like the wider range (I usually have ceramic in the bridge.)

Just depends how you want to roll with that LP. Duncan has you covered. There is always the middle of the road 59 for each/other position as well.

[Satans Sidekick]

thanks guys! i think i'll stick with the PGn, it sounds like it fits my needs.

@GuitarDoc: as for swapping magnets, that's way above me! i'm gonna bring my guitar in to get my pickups swapped. i dont think i have the cojones to do it myself yet... if ever