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    Default Re: Overdrive on £100 budget

    Quote Originally Posted by spleenharvester View Post
    Have a DS-1 which I cannot stand. The amp FX sounds better.
    what? they're 2 different things... DS-1 is distortion pedal, the amp's FX are effects like chorus, delay and reverb.
    I would suggest to connect the speaker output to a real 1x12" cabinet. It sounds better than the stock no-brand 10" spk.

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    Default Re: Overdrive on £100 budget

    Quote Originally Posted by crguti View Post
    what? they're 2 different things... DS-1 is distortion pedal, the amp's FX are effects like chorus, delay and reverb.
    I would suggest to connect the speaker output to a real 1x12" cabinet. It sounds better than the stock no-brand 10" spk.
    Amp has overdrive.

    Thankyou very much for all the suggestions people

    Any opinions on the Roland Cube 15XL? Lots of people are recommending them to me in college.

    Have a total of £200 to burn on amp+FX now. Will bear suggestions given in mind.

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    Liking the Proco RAT and MXR Classic quite a lot, looking around.

    Also liking the Blackstar HT-5 quite a lot. Can't help but wonder if it's worth just getting an amp with built in FX?

    Not replacing the guitar lol. It's more than fine.
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    Default Re: Overdrive on £100 budget

    A highly underated OD pedal that's cheap, Digitech Bad Monkey.
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    Default Re: Overdrive on £100 budget

    the blackstar is a good option. you wont need a dirt box either...but if you want another flavour, your ds1 will sound a lot better thru that amp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.K View Post
    A highly underated OD pedal that's cheap, Digitech Bad Monkey.

    IMHO, so is the Rocktron Austin Gold !!!
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    Can't beat that MXR OD, esp for the price. Plus you can flip the switch inside to turn it into the Zakk Wylde OD for a little extra bite. You get two good ODs in one.
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    Default Re: Overdrive on £100 budget

    Agh still genuinely stuck for choice.

    Either:

    ProCo Rat and an amp for £150 max

    Or an amp with inbuilt OD for £200, though I can probably push that boundary a small amount.

    Very impressed with that Blackstar but I'm not sure that 1 watt will be enough for rehearsals.

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    I don't like modellers as 'big' amps but I think the smaller ones are great for home. The Line 6 Spider 15w goes for around £80 and sounds a zillion times better than the Marshall you're using.

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    Eugh. Sorry to be the most awkward person on the planet, but my parents have gone back on their decision and aren't letting me spend £200 in one go, like £100 maybe more.

    Decided on the ProCo rat for the pedal thanks to the guys here, but I'm gonna get an amp first. So an amp for £100~£130?

    Following last suggestions been looking at a Vox Valvetronix, any others?

    Thankyou all very much and sorry for being a nuisance again haha.
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    Default Re: Overdrive on £100 budget

    I would personally see if you could find a second hand peavey bandit (not the really old ones)

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    Default Re: Overdrive on £100 budget

    such as this

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Peavey-Ban...item231ac1ae5b

    £65 1hr 24mins left

    This would be even better but you would need a cab also.

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bugera-626...item19ce589375
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    Default Re: Overdrive on £100 budget

    Alright guys, decided on the Vox VT20+ since I tried it in a music store and it blew me away.

    http://www.gak.co.uk/en/vox-vt20plus/40304

    http://www.voxshowroom.com/uk/amp/vt+.html

    It has a 12AX7 tube in the valve reactor (see above).

    What precautions will I have to take to make sure the tube doesn't get damaged?

    Can it be pushed to maximum volume without getting damaged? (I ask this because the trashy MG15s at college can only go to volume 5 before squealing their way to oblivion).

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Padded-cov...item4602118b93

    Are these covers any good? It's gonna be lugged to college every Friday on a two hour long bus trip so I need to make sure it stays in decent nick.

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    I'm glad you came to that conclusion. I just checked the thread to convince you to simply buy whatever Vox Valvetronix amp you can afford (check the used ads too).

    The Valvetronix amps have the most realistic gain models of all the affordable modelers.
    No need for an OD. The magic really happens when you use the internal OD models with the amp models, and blend them just like you would with an OD pedal.
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    Yeah, I'm gonna sell a few of my FX pedals probably, they're unnecessary now! Seems like great £/performance ratio.

    Just scared it's gonna get damaged or blown, especially when competing with a drum kit. The MG15s are 15 watt rated but hopeless at anything over volume 5, just squeal like absolute mental.
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    Default Re: Overdrive on £100 budget

    Have you bought this yet ? A 20 watt solid state amp (which it is despite the presence of one valve) through an 8" speaker will NOT keep up with a drummer.

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    Default Re: Overdrive on £100 budget

    Well we have to use the 15 watt MG15s on half volume and they just about manage. Surely a 30watt max RMS amp could do?

    They actually have Peavey stacks at college which don't seem to be too bad, usually only the vocalists use them but I have no idea what model they are, worse comes to the worse could I put the output through there?

    EDIT: Fairly sure the Peavey stack is a PR series. Looks pretty damn similar if not.
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    The Peavey PR is a PA (public address) amp designed for vocals. You might be able to run the Vox through it but really you need an amp that's loud enough that you don't have to mike it up or run it through a PA.

    Without going into lots of detail the Vox is a 20 watt amp. In general 20 watt solid state amps produce nowhere near the volume of 20 watt valve amps. I've never tried the Vox but I'd be willing to guess that it would really struggle against even a fairly mild drummer. An even bigger problem is that it has a single 8" speaker which really isn't enough for an amp in a band context.

    I don't mean to be overly negative but, if you haven't bought the amp, I would suggest you think again. It won't be easy to find an amp that fits your needs on a budget of £100 unless you grab a good used deal. That Peavey Bandit that went for £62 on ebay would have suited you perfectly.

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    Default Re: Overdrive on £100 budget

    Agh. Looks like I'm needing the 60W VT40+ then :| is the VT20+ not 30 watt?

    Unless there's a better choice for £169.99?

    Haven't bought it yet.
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    Default Re: Overdrive on £100 budget

    http://www.gumtree.com/search?q=guit...ce=&max_price=

    A quick look through Gumtree and I see a Marshall Valvestate 100w combo for £90 and a Peavey Bandit for £50. Either of these would do you fine but, if you go second hand, check the amp out thoroughly before parting with your cash. If you can, take a friend who has a good knowledge of guitar amps.

    The VT40 is a 40 watt amp with a single 10" speaker and i think you will find that this will still struggle against a drummer.
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