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    Default New LP Standard: Yay for added flexibility or too fiddly for its own good?

    I can't make up my mind. On the one hand, I'm very impressed. But on the other, I'm pretty okay with having different guitars for different tasks, rather than a complex series of unlabeled and interdependent switches on a single guitar allowing me to approximate the sound of another.

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    Default Re: New LP Standard: Yay for added flexibility or too fiddly for its own good?

    Good features to add, but overpriced by about $1,000 to $1,200, especially with the way they are made nowadays. I thought my Standard was ridiculous in 2004 when I got it for $1,980. But it came with a free Les Paul Melody Maker, which I was planning on buying anyhow, so I went ahead. Now they are over $600 more, but made even worse? Uh uh, sorry, I'll pass on a new LP Standard and get a lightly used one instead. Gibson's low and mid level guitars are where it is at if you are gonna buy new IMO. I feel that my SG Special Faded and my LP Melody Maker were decent guitars for the money, despite their cheap elements.

    My next LP will be either a BFG Gator or a used Standard Faded.
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    Default Re: New LP Standard: Yay for added flexibility or too fiddly for its own good?

    love the look, don't need the features... if I bought one I'd gut it and put the standard LP stuff in there.

    I could see some people loving the additional stuff. Professional musicians who only wanna bring one guitar to the studio could make good use of most of that stuff. Guys in cover bands often seem to like being able to get more sounds out of the H-H setup too.

    BTW I love that Gibson always calls it "coil tapping" and not splitting.
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    Default Re: New LP Standard: Yay for added flexibility or too fiddly for its own good?

    too much things in the guitar that can go wrong. I prefer 2 VERY good pickups and 2 tone 2 volume, maybe even a coiltap at it's best. but it's not really needed.

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    Default Re: New LP Standard: Yay for added flexibility or too fiddly for its own good?

    I like having a variety of tone options. I think it's a good thing. If they're on your guitar and you don't want to use them, then don't.
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    Default Re: New LP Standard: Yay for added flexibility or too fiddly for its own good?

    Flexibility through things like push-pulls are no problem in my book. They can be as invisible as you like, unlike toggle switches which add complexity both in the aesthetic and operationally.

    I would have preferred series parallel compared with coil tap, but thats only a minor gripe.

    I have a feeling a 2012 LP standard is on my horizon. Especially being a lefty and all colours being available.

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    Default Re: New LP Standard: Yay for added flexibility or too fiddly for its own good?

    It's good to see they did this for the Studio too, and haven't restricted it to just the higher priced stuff. Whilst I don't use them often, I've added push-push pots to a good few of my guitars, both off the shelf and ones I built.
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    Default Re: New LP Standard: Yay for added flexibility or too fiddly for its own good?

    Seems great to me. The new sounds don't get in the way of traditional operation. I'd lose the tapered knobs and put speed knobs on it though. A lot easier for me to use especially if you going to be pulling up on them.

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    It is about time. Those wanting more traditional LPs have their choices too. I hate switching guitars, so I go for the most versatile ones I can get. Just 3 or 4 different sounds are all I need.

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    Default Re: New LP Standard: Yay for added flexibility or too fiddly for its own good?

    Kinda cool...though I dont like having a 16 inch radius on the upper frets. 12 is more comfortable for me.
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    Default Re: New LP Standard: Yay for added flexibility or too fiddly for its own good?

    That studio just made my wishlist! The pelham blue looks great. Not sure about the granadillo fingerboard, though, but it is probably better than baked maple?
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    Default Re: New LP Standard: Yay for added flexibility or too fiddly for its own good?

    bah asymmetrical neck profile
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    They sure did a great job making it sound like dog sh*t in that video
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    Default Re: New LP Standard: Yay for added flexibility or too fiddly for its own good?

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    bah asymmetrical neck profile

    Yeah i dont dig that part either,.
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    Default Re: New LP Standard: Yay for added flexibility or too fiddly for its own good?

    Actually, I do like the idea of an asymmetrical neckprofile. My favorite necks are 1.1 inch thick all over, and are trapezoid shape on the low E side and round from the middle the the high E up.

    and apparently, I'm the only one who hates all those switching options.

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    Default Re: New LP Standard: Yay for added flexibility or too fiddly for its own good?

    When I first built my LP, I did the Jimmy Page switching with the four push pull pots (the old system). After about a month of messing with it, I took out two of them and had coil splitting and phase switching. Didn't like/use those either, so I took that out and got 4 500K pots and wired it up like a normal LP.

    I like the assymetrical profile. I did mine like that, and it still feels more comfortable to me, so I did the strat neck the same way.

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    The guys on MLP are gonna have a FIELD DAY with this...

    I actually don't hate it, but I'm not sure if I don't hate it because I'm comparing it to the steamy piles of sh!t Gibson have been calling guitars for the last couple years, or I actually like it...that aside, they should NOT call it a Les Paul Standard, because that thing is anything but standard.

    The pseudo-Jimmy Page wiring is a little much, but as others have said, if you don't want them, don't use them. Compound radius is probably awesome, again, just shouldn't be on a guitar called a "Les Paul Standard"

    The one thing that does really irk me is that they conveniently failed to mention the laminated fingerboard. They really are trying to go over peoples heads with their rosewood shenanigans
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    I'm comparing it to the steamy piles of sh!t Gibson have been calling guitars for the last couple years
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    Quote Originally Posted by oilpit View Post

    The one thing that does really irk me is that they conveniently failed to mention the laminated fingerboard. They really are trying to go over peoples heads with their rosewood shenanigans
    Its in their FAQ so not sure how they trying to be deceptive about it. They even made announcements to places like GC that the 2 piece finger boards were being done. Just cause hey arent emblazoning the hang tags with neo warning signs that its a laminated fingerboard doenst mean they are up to something.
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    Is it just me or does it sound terrible in this video?
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