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    Requirements:

    • MXR size enclosure
    • Tweakability (at least a clipping selector)
    • At or under $200
    Right now, the serious contenders are the CMATmods Ratified and the JHS All American. Any other good boxes? I'd check out the LM308, but it won't fit on my board. Also considering the Monte Allums OD308.
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    Default Re: Looking for a Rat

    BYOC's rat clone (the mouse) looks sick - traditional, plus 5 other settings!! kinda want one myself now.

    pre-built for less than $130.

    http://www.axeandyoushallreceive.com...re-built-pedal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agileguy_101 View Post
    Requirements:

    • MXR size enclosure
    • Tweakability (at least a clipping selector)
    • At or under $200
    Right now, the serious contenders are the CMATmods Ratified and the JHS All American. Any other good boxes? I'd check out the LM308, but it won't fit on my board. Also considering the Monte Allums OD308.
    At that price one could find a real '80's Rat.
    I am the Special Envoy of Unparalleled Tone. I would be a Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary, but I don't have a Hiwatt.

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    Default Re: Looking for a Rat

    Yeah, but I can't fit an 80's rat on my board. Plus, I want more functionality than the vintage offerings... offer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agileguy_101 View Post
    Yeah, but I can't fit an 80's rat on my board. Plus, I want more functionality than the vintage offerings... offer.
    too bad you go for other things besides pure tone. I do too sometimes .I sold my great sounding Russian Muff- just to big and bulky, but sounded fantastic.
    I am the Special Envoy of Unparalleled Tone. I would be a Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary, but I don't have a Hiwatt.

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    Just because it's the original doesn't mean it's the best. And more importantly, it's not the best for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agileguy_101 View Post
    Just because it's the original doesn't mean it's the best. And more importantly, it's not the best for me.
    Disagree man..it IS the best. An old 80's Rat is the best sounding rat over later versions.. maybe not for you.
    Last edited by MetalManiac; 04-12-2012 at 08:35 PM.
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    It might be the best out of other Proco Rats, but I don't see why someone can't build something that's at least as good nowadays.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agileguy_101 View Post
    It might be the best out of other Proco Rats, but I don't see why someone can't build something that's at least as good nowadays.
    I know, but, no, the originals sound best.
    I am the Special Envoy of Unparalleled Tone. I would be a Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary, but I don't have a Hiwatt.

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    Nah... I disagree.... I had this Rat from the late 90s I got from someone here (kjrocks?) and I ended up getting to play a 80s rat side by side and the 90s one was better. The low end stayed intact and tighter... with a ton of volume the original awesome tonezz lm308 rat sounded like a giant wet fart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MetalManiac View Post
    I know, but, no, the originals sound best.
    Proof? haha FWIW the Hartman LM308 pedal I had was very close to an original rat and I got mine for $80 used. I still liked the 90s one over both though.
    Quote Originally Posted by crusty philtrum View Post
    Gear was simple, ya plugged in, turned up and played. The men were separated from the boys. Now it's mostly limp-wristed sissies wearing makeup and scowling at the camera. None of them would have cut it in the dinosaur days, they would have pooped their pants and run home to mummy.

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    Default Re: Looking for a Rat

    http://www.freakshoweffects.com/the_rabbit

    It's slightly bigger than the MXR enclosure (a little taller and wider) but still smaller than a stock RAT. I love mine! Very awesome sounds! Here's a good clip of mine:

    - BlueBurst Campellone Standard CSTM (Kent Armstrong Johnny Smith Mini HB n)
    - Pelham Blue Gibson DG-335 (Antiquity n/'78 b)
    - Goldtop Gibson R7 (Antiquity HBs)
    - Teal Green Metallic Fender '56 NOS Strat (Antiquity Surfers n&m/Antiquity Texas Hot Custom b)
    - Tungsten Buckwheat
    - Fender '57 Tweed Twin-Amp
    - Vintage Sound Amps VS112P (Princeton Reverb clone)
    - Henriksen JazzAmp 110

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    I like my ratII! got it for about $80 at MF on one of their sales
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    +1 for the freakshow brown rabbit. One of the best RAT clones ive heard.

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    Get a bigger board. One of the coolest thing about Rats is that the enclosure is machined out of enough steel to build the Brooklyn Bridge.
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    Retro Sonic distortion...

    -Phase 90 size box
    -3 way clipping switch (stock, A Sym, LED)
    -Internal trimmers for overall gain structure and freq tweaking)
    -LM308 Op Amp
    -$189 new

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kam View Post
    Get a bigger board. One of the coolest thing about Rats is that the enclosure is machined out of enough steel to build the Brooklyn Bridge.
    The Brooklyn Bridge is made out of steel?! That's news to me!
    Why don't you take your little Cobra Kais and get outta here?!

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    Default Re: Looking for a Rat

    this one ticks all your boxes:

    but if yo ucan live with it being bigger than an mxr, then this is 50 bucks cheaper:
    "Technique is really the elimination of the unneccessary ... it is a constant effort to avoid any personal impediment or obstacle to acheive the smooth flow of energy and intent"
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    Ask Sonny Black. He knows where to find a rat.

    I hope someone gets this reference.

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    there are 83 reviews, I agree with most of them:

    http://www.musiciansfriend.com/ampli...51501000000000

    you dirty rat!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jon the art guy View Post
    Aceman, your advice was a rich tapestry of hard-fought research, blood, sweat and tears and the homespun wisdom we've all learned to expect and relish from our itinerant face-painted lunatic. Let it be written in the annals of history; Aceman sure as heck helped.

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