Pickup set for Gibson SG with vintag vibe

[majewsky]

According to majority, i'll propably buy set of 59's, and maybe swap mags if something won't be like i want.

Thanks for help

[Mr. B]

I change out the neck for a 59n, but I don't find anything wrong with the 498t bridge that comes in the Sg Standards. I find the 59b a bit weak sometimes, and the treble can be thin and tinny in the upper frets.

[majewsky]

Yes it's nice but look what they're putting in new gibsons:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3583/...d8fe453e85.jpg
It's PCB. I want to sell whole electronics from it and replace them with CTS pots, Seymours and Orange Drop caps, because i've got one set. I'll get more money for complete elwctronic. maybe i'll get 59'N and hybrid set for "test drive" from my friend. But now i'm considering 59's and Pearly Gates set. I've got Seth's in Epiphone but they screams under higer gain.

[JohnnyGuitarCA]

'59 set w/ArtieToo's "de-mud" mod on the neck P.... OR '59n w/ArtieToo's "de-mud" mod/SH-11 Custom Custom Bridge

[LtKojak]

I've only tried the 59 in the neck position on one of my SG:s, and actually hated it. Way to bassy. /

That's what happens when you setup the neck p'up too close to the strings.

HTH,

[atreidesheir]

I'm going to STRONGLY disagree with your ear. A 59N in the bridge? No way that would be thin and lack balls. Maybe for playing Jazz or something it would go over ok but why castrate it like that when you can just get a 59B?

Same with the T-Tops. Definitely not for me. If you dig em thats great have at it. But for me there are many pickups that do everything a Ttop can do and more.

I STRONGLY disagree with your ear. Most revered vintage guitars have two pickups that would be considered Neck windings by today's standards.

You think Schenker's UFO tone was weak?
You think the Edge's explorer sounds thin?
Thin Lizzy, Neal Schon used these pickups. Good tones I say. All T-top tones. They are clear and ring more than a good old PAF, but when they are good they are hard to beat. They are full and clean and allow the amp's voice to play a very small bit more of a role in your tone.

The reference tones of rock are made without calibrated bridge pickups. If you say a duncan neck pickup cannot have balls in the bridge position when set at the correct height, your amp needs servicing. A bridge model will have more lows and lower mids, but a flick of a knob should fix it if you know what you are doing. No castrations here, sir. I own four vintage Gibsons equipped with T-tops, all measure less than 7.5k. And women cry and panties fly Everytime they leave the case.
( I did not like the word castrated )

Majewski, a set of 59s will make you very happy. If you venture a magnet swap, unoriented rough cast alnico 5 is a very good choice. blueman335 gives great testimony to them and I personally love it. He and Lt. Kojak and others have given extensive testimony on several great choices. The 59 set is incredibly versatile with mag swaps and will conform to your needs based on the choices.
qoute from Lt. Kojak, 11-17-2010:"The '59 wind is so good as you can use ANY magnet you want without making it sound bad, not even on purpose.

Every magnet swap serves to taylor-made your particular needs in your particular guitar/rig. Too scooped? Get an A4 and you're done. Too boomy? Get an A3 and you're done. Too cold and sterile? Get an A2 and you're done. Too wimpy? Get an A8 and you're done. Too bold with an A8? Get an UOA5 and you're done.

That's the beauty of the '59 wind... you just can't fault it!" -end quuote

[Edgecrusher]

Your amp with passive tone controls cant add something that isnt there. Your just flat wrong on that point. What are you going to do then when you set your amp with the bass controls all the way futilely trying to get bottom end out of that pickup then you swap to the neck pickup that is now way way way over bassy. Sounds like a good plan to me... Like i said if it works for you have at it.

But if you notice everyone that you cited as being the be all end all of T top tones no longer uses them. If schenker felt they were the ultimate pickup there is nothing at all stopping him from using them. Yet he doesnt. Thats curious isnt it? I will also go out on the limb and say his modern tones are better than his vintage ones. They might be "clear" but lack body and depth


Its wonderful women throw underwear at you. the sad truth is though unless it hurts their ears ANY tone is a good guitar tone to them.

[atreidesheir]

You insult my guitar tone. you insult my women.
I even put a smiley in my post.


There is bottom end in a neck pickup. Just ask your seymour duncan customer support since you don't like me. Let what is there shine. Turn your PASSIVE bass control up to let it through. That is exactly what I am talking about.

I never said Ttops were the "ultimate pickup", I said the best SG I ever heard had them (that was what this thread was about!), and gave advice accordingly. They are good pickups. You disagree, but that seems to make you think you have to make insulting statements to make me look less informed.

I actually prefer the older tones to the newer ones of everyone I listed. They were examples of great music made with lower power humbuckers, and/or uncalibrated neck and bridge humbuckers.

I am going to presume your translation is contributing to the personal edge and condescending tone of your opinion of my friendly advice to a forum brother. If not, ...

[blueman335]

You insult my guitar tone. you insult my women.
I even put a smiley in my post.

Don't take it personally. You have to roll with the punches in this rough and tumble, devil-may-care world of guitar geeks who type much tougher than they really are. Things are said behind keyboards that would never be said in person.

[atreidesheir]

Don't take it personally. You have to roll with the punches in this rough and tumble, devil-may-care world of guitar geeks who type much tougher than they really are. Things are said behind keyboards that would never be said in person.

You are correct.
Thanks for the uoa5 advice throughout the forum. Those mags in 59s took my Guild Bluesbird from a 9.5 to a 10+. rounded the corner frequencies and softened things up just a bit. big THUMBSUP!!