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    Default The album-making process has begun! Phase 1: primary tracking complete

    The mega-process of completing a self-produced album was begun on Friday and ended yesterday around Noon.

    In the main, this is the way it went down:

    ::FRIDAY::
    Picked up cargo van from Uhaul
    Retrieved necessary bits of gear from Public Storage
    Made tracksheet for session
    Piled my gear into the Dining Room (after moving the table to the Living Room!)

    GEAR included: 4 guitars, 2 amp heads, 2 4x12 cabinets, 2 6-space racks, 3 duffel bags with microphones, cables, accessories, a folding table, a pair of monitor speakers, my PC/monitor/keyboard/mouse, external hard drives, USB license keys, drum kit, bass head, bass 4x12, sundry

    (My good friend Phil showed up on Saturday with his 10 space rack full of microphone preamps and Lunchbox, as well as several mics of his own; Phil also did assistant Engineering duties)

    ::SATURDAY::
    Bass player came to my house at 8AM and we loaded all of the gear aside from the drum kit; drove to the drummer's house and loaded his kit and then set out for SIR.

    The holiday weekend REALLY worked in our favour as we were able to find ample parking right on 25th St and there was NO traffic!

    SIR is by far my favourite room in the city; the staff is great and courteous, the facility is in a great location and is designed for ease of use.

    We started actual setup about 10AM ... began mic'ing the drums and getting tones dialed in at 11 ... lunch break just before 2PM ... and actual tracking commenced around 3PM.









    As you can see, I ended up mic'ing the guitar from quite far away by today's standards -- about 2ft away for guitar and 18" for bass. I was going for 2 things with the primary tracks -- clean bleed between mics and enough room in each mic where we could bring all the faders up to 0 and have a very close approximation of the sound from the listening position.

    We finished tracking just before 11PM. It was a long, grueling day and I did not actually end until 3AM when I brought the final piece of kit in from unloading the van ... and then up at 8AM to return the van to Uhaul.

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    If I could do it differently, what would I change?

    I would probably parse the recording out over 2 days instead of trying to get ALL of the primary tracks and guitar doubles complete in one.

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    Is the end result worth all of the effort we put in?

    I think so; there is an actual SOUNDSTAGE to the recording, which is what I was aiming for ... you and get a real sense of the width and depth of the recording space without having to resort to digital reverbs.

    ***

    Here is a sample of one of the songs we tracked,
    http://soundcloud.com/bena/demagog-rough-b

    All of the songs were recorded LIVE, with guitar overdubs/harmonies being the only addition.

    Now onto Phase 2 -- adding synths, acoustic guitars, and miscellany!!
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    Default Re: The album-making process has begun! Phase 1: primary tracking complete

    Oh, one other note on the actual recording:

    1 mic was used on each guitar cab; an Audix D2 on the Rivera and an SM57 on the Hiwatt
    1 mic was used on the bass cab; Sennheiser D112
    5 mics were used on the drums; front and side overheads, inside and outside kick, and snare
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    Default Re: The album-making process has begun! Phase 1: primary tracking complete

    That certainly qualifies as a busy day!!

    Running to that sort of timetable highlights the importance of being well drilled and well rehearsed as a band. It must be immensely satisfying to have achieved all of that in the one day.

    I can't see the pics or hear the sample as I'm at work, but I'll take a look later.

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    Default Re: The album-making process has begun! Phase 1: primary tracking complete

    Thanks, I look forward to your impressions!

    For the recording geeks out there, here is a screen shot of the drums in the above track, solo'd, showing the phase coherency of the mics. Meow!!

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    Wow, looks really cool! Kinda surprised you didn't do at least one close mic to have as a potential blend-in track if during mixing you wish it were there. But you're the audio expert!

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    Very cool stuff TO!

    Nice big sounds from small amp heads and a nice tight sound for live too, well done!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DankStar View Post
    Wow, looks really cool! Kinda surprised you didn't do at least one close mic to have as a potential blend-in track if during mixing you wish it were there.
    The issue with that would have been that I would need 3 close-mics simply due to the way I run my rig ... If I feel I need to blend in a close-mic'd guitar, I can always do another pass with the iso cab, but I really wanted to capture a more old school/live type of sound.

    But you're the audio expert!
    Hardly! But sometimes it pays to be old!
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    You can't beat the sound of a band playing live. Sounds great!!

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    Awesome, sounds really good to me! Please post more as they're finished.

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    Cool how you can hear everything!

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    ...USB license keys...
    ...what the...?
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    I'm soooooo jealous about the WR-1. It's the perfect guitar; fantastic to play, balances well even when seated and *great* reach for the upper frets. The sound is bright tight and very articulate. In summary it could only be more awesome if it had **** and was on fire!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrNewcenstein View Post
    ...what the...?
    http://www.steinberg.net/en/products...elicenser.html
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    Cool. I'll be sure to get a CD when everything is finished.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DankStar View Post
    Cool how you can hear everything!
    Quote Originally Posted by innerdreamrecords.co View Post
    Awesome, sounds really good to me! Please post more as they're finished.
    Quote Originally Posted by stevie_bees View Post
    You can't beat the sound of a band playing live. Sounds great!!
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    Are there any vocals to be added?

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    awesomeness! looks like a lot of fun
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    Quote Originally Posted by ginormous View Post
    Are there any vocals to be added?
    Yep
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwilightOdyssey View Post
    ....but why include that in the "gear" list...?
    Quote Originally Posted by Brown Note View Post
    I'm soooooo jealous about the WR-1. It's the perfect guitar; fantastic to play, balances well even when seated and *great* reach for the upper frets. The sound is bright tight and very articulate. In summary it could only be more awesome if it had **** and was on fire!
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    Default Re: The album-making process has begun! Phase 1: primary tracking complete

    Awesomesauce, sir.

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    Default Re: The album-making process has begun! Phase 1: primary tracking complete

    Sounds like it could have fallen off a truck in the 70's and somebody just found the tape. Why can't more music be produced this way? You know, so it sounds like a band in a room.

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