Trying to learn an STP song and hoping for some help???

[ItsaBass]

Ugh, not sure how to pull this off...

If you have another guitarist to play the A#'s:

080X7X
350XXX
3502XX (the most difficult of the lot)

If you need to include the A#'s in one guitar part:

080876
0807X6

[papersoul]

Thanks man!

[papersoul]

ITSABASS, are all those chords that I should be playing or can I pick and choose? Remember it is only the two chords I couldn;t figure out, the one at the intro and the one before the solo.

[innerdreamrecords.co]

Maybe this will help you. By the way it's the same chord, intro, before the solo and ending.

[ItsaBass]

Yep, same chord in all three places. Those things that I wrote down are just various options I could think of for playing "The Chord." I think the second to last or the last ones are the easiest and sound the best if you are the only guitarist.

And just because I wrote them doesn't mean they are correct. They are just the best that I can figure.

As for tunings, I don't know which ones he uses on which songs, but I do know that he makes use of non-standard tunings. Also, the album part you are learning definitely has multiple tracks (I think it is at least three), and maybe a light use of a chorus and/or vibrato pedal as well.

I am not the world's biggest STP fan, but IMO Dean DeLeo is one of the best musicians and most interesting guitarists to get into the mainstream as a member of a band in the past 30 years. I don't idolize him, but I highly respect his musicianship. He is a hard guy to copy, especially if you are trying to play the studio recordings with only one guitar part. His brother is a great bassist too.

P.S. I wrote them high E to low E, but I am sure you figured that out.

P.P.S. I thought of another one, and it is for the laziest of the lazy: 080XXX. Same notes as 350XXX, but a different inversion that only requires one fretted note. It'd work fine if you had someone else to play those A#'s.

[Inferno]

I'm not sure of the accuracy of this, but Rocksmith says that that chord as an "Em7 (b5)/Bb" played 670780. It also has a second guitar adding 01xxxx (written out low to high e both times).

[papersoul]

If you have another guitarist to play the A#'s:

080X7X
350XXX
3502XX (the most difficult of the lot)

If you need to include the A#'s in one guitar part:

080876
0807X6

No offense, I tried these chords and none of them even sound close to the recording. I am stuck.
This sounds closest and it works in the band setting...although not an exact match of what he is doing - x03330

[papersoul]

E---0
B---8
G---7
D---7
A---x
E---6
OR
E---0
B---5
G---7
D---7
A---x
E---6

[ItsaBass]

No offense, I tried these chords and none of them even sound close to the recording. I am stuck.
This sounds closest and it works in the band setting...although not an exact match of what he is doing - x03330

They all sound fine to me. It's not offensive, just makes me think you are listening to something other than what I am listening to. Are you listening on a microscopic laptop speaker? If so, put some headphones on and crank them up. As I said, you need three guitarists to pull it off exactly like the record anyhow, so any single chord that attempts to do it will not sound ideal (but will certainly get the job done).

What I think is happening is that the notes I wrote are a decent replication of the notes on the record, but you are not able to play them the same way as they are played on the record all in one strum. On the record, they are split into at least three parts, with the note or two on each track played so that they can ring and feed back. Playing everything in one strum will sound very different. Personally, if things were ideal, I'd split that chord with another guitarist and/or keyboardist if I really wanted to bother to nail it. More than likely in the real world, I'd just come up with something that sounds good enough without needing to perfectly replicate the record.

All I know for sure is that I can hear a high E, two octaves of G, and two octaves of A# in it. There may be other notes that I cannot discern, but those five are definitely there, and that basically amounts to an incomplete diminished chord, which could be said to be based on E, G, or A#. Melodically speaking, E can be ruled out, so it's a G or A# diminished which is incomplete. If in doubt about what has been suggested here, I say just look up a A# diminished or a G diminished in one of those cheesy chord books and use whatever stock fingering they give you (but delete any C#s in the chord). It'll do the job for 99.9 percent of your audience.

Good luck. You'll figure something out if you don't like what has been offered. And if you don't, it's not a big deal anyhow. It's just a few chords in a short song, which all basically amount to dissonant noise anyhow.

P.S. You're not playing along with that You Tube version that has been raised half a step, are you?

[papersoul]

On a good stereo...this sounds correct:
E---0
B---8
G---7
D---7
A---x
E---6

[ninemiles]

The hardest chords are that weird intro chord and the chord immediately before the solo!

here's what I figured out, low to high (standard tuning): 012030
I have no idea what its called, but it sounds right! its got the A#, high E, and two octaves of G mentioned earlier...

[Filipe Marquez]

Just download the best rating tab at ultimate-guitar.com. I learned this song last year and i don't remember having MANY problems, no. And i DON'T play well.

Have a recording of it on http://soundcloud.com/filipe-br , if you care to follow me i'll love you forever. xD :*