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    Board cut in half and the preamp section replaced with this monstrosity.

    Another area repair shop sent this to me to sort out; they already removed the "extra" tube and tried to rewire it but it didn't work. It belongs to a backline rental company. I'll have to make a new board to replace the missing portion. I'll be returning it to stock...at least from a function standpoint.

    The mod was fairly recent (2001) based on the cap dates.
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    Default Re: Butchered 800

    I don't know what people are thinking when they do stuff like this. At some point you have to realize that buying another amp is a better idea.

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    Default Re: Butchered 800

    I love the idea that just throwing another preamp tube in should result in the ultimate amp of one's dreams.
    Enter the Dankatorium

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    Quote Originally Posted by firebirdV View Post
    I don't know what people are thinking when they do stuff like this. At some point you have to realize that buying another amp is a better idea.
    Or just goosing it with a pedal like 99.9% of owners would have.

    Quote Originally Posted by DankStar View Post
    I love the idea that just throwing another preamp tube in should result in the ultimate amp of one's dreams.
    Some people are mod happy...both owners and techs. You can't turn a Ford Focus into a Ferrari...and you can't fit all your groceries in a Ferrari.
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    Default Re: Butchered 800

    So how did it sound?

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    Quote Originally Posted by speed2dirt View Post
    So how did it sound?
    I have no idea...it was non-functional when I got it.

    According to the backline Co that owns it (info passed along to me indirectly), it was never very impressive.
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    There should be mandatory prison sentences for that kind of mutilation. Thank heavens there are guys like you to clean up the mess.

    Gigged with my beloved JMP 2104 on Saturday and it's perfect for what I do. If I want more gain I'm with the 99.9% - hit it with a pedal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon_F View Post
    There should be mandatory prison sentences for that kind of mutilation.
    How about solitary confinement with a Crate Blue Voodoo as a cell mate?
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    Quote Originally Posted by glassman View Post
    How about solitary confinement with a Crate Blue Voodoo as a cell mate?
    A friend of mine actually has a Blue Voodoo 300 head (yes, insane at 300 watts), but the 6550 compliment, large transformers, and Eminence loaded cab actually sound (gasp) good?! There is a possibilty the BV300, if it were anyone's cell mate, would have its way with them.

    I am with you on the old Blue Voodoo heads sounding harsh though, I really think that poor speaker choice had a lot to do with that. Quality speakers (say some Celestion Classic Lead 80s and Vintage 30s in tandem) improve the sound appreciably.

    All the same, modding a Marshall is not to be taken lightly. Modding a Marshall incorrectly should be a punishable offense.

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    When I look at these images, I get the same revulsion as when I see pics of the poor les pauls that were mutilated in the '80s to "improve" them by adding a floyd, a top horn cutaway, weight-relief holes made with hand-drills...etc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by glassman View Post
    Nice...
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    Board cut in half and the preamp section replaced with this monstrosity.

    Another area repair shop sent this to me to sort out; they already removed the "extra" tube and tried to rewire it but it didn't work. It belongs to a backline rental company. I'll have to make a new board to replace the missing portion. I'll be returning it to stock...at least from a function standpoint.

    The mod was fairly recent (2001) based on the cap dates.
    Some people should have their hands cut off.... ;o)
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    Quote Originally Posted by glassman View Post
    Or just goosing it with a pedal like 99.9% of owners would have.



    Some people are mod happy...both owners and techs. You can't turn a Ford Focus into a Ferrari...and you can't fit all your groceries in a Ferrari.
    Guess I better stop cutting air ducts into the front fascia of my Focus... Dangit!!


    Im sure thousands of 800s were raped and pillaged during the mod crazy 80s
    Believe me when I say that some of the most amazing music in history was made on equipment that's not as good as what you own right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BloodRose View Post
    Guess I better stop cutting air ducts into the front fascia of my Focus... Dangit!!


    Im sure thousands of 800s were raped and pillaged during the mod crazy 80s
    They were!
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    Quote Originally Posted by firebirdV View Post
    I don't know what people are thinking when they do stuff like this. At some point you have to realize that buying another amp is a better idea.
    No can do, Chief. That would require admitting they bought the wrong amp.

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    What ever it takes to keep Marshalls off the streets




    Calm down I am just kidding

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    Quote Originally Posted by STRATDELUXER97 View Post
    They were!
    Some were made far better though. However that was very very rare
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toe-Knee View Post
    Some were made far better though...
    NOTHING was ever made "Far better" than Father Marshalls Late 70's JMP/ Early 80's JCM800 design.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MetalManiac View Post
    NOTHING was ever made "Far better" than Father Marshalls Late 70's JMP/ Early 80's JCM800 design.
    Agreed....Ditched my own 800 many years ago!



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    Quote Originally Posted by MetalManiac View Post
    NOTHING was ever made "Far better" than Father Marshalls Late 70's JMP/ Early 80's JCM800 design.
    I beg to differ but that all depends on what you are wanting to use the amp for.

    I much prefer the lee Jackson & bogner & soldano modded 800s to the stock ones for thrash by far
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toe-Knee View Post
    I beg to differ but that all depends on what you are wanting to use the amp for.

    I much prefer the lee Jackson & bogner & soldano modded 800s to the stock ones for thrash by far
    An 800 is too toppy sounding unless you snip that dreaded .001 cap off the preamp control...Plus I always found my own 800 to be thin and compressed sounding until you wound it up past 3/4 or so on the volume...

    With the NMV series,I've not found this to be an issue...One side of my own JMP head is almost Fender BF clean(warm and not so ice picky in the highs)

    I'm a classic rock/blues guy and so the NMV earlier series Marshalls fit my styles better....Not to say that I don't also love alot of the 80s 800 tones..

    I also don't play with alot of gain...Something a bit gainier than a stock Plexi tone.....works..
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