JTM45 still practical ?

[JBG]

45 watts impratical? . Bull****!
I dont play live, but if you do, and 45 watts NMV is too much then I pity you.

Amen!

[STRATDELUXER97]

ME ME! I'm in the Pissing match!

Glad you like my post quote....It's all true! ;o) Great tone...Great guy!

[Lazarus1140]

Is pissing matches worse than kidney stones?

[Kam]

These kinda discussions are actually my favorite! I like getting opinions and recomendations from people with a lot more real world experience than me. TGWIF, SD, RID and a few others are usually my favorite threads to learn from, even if some of it gets misconstrued. I've learned so much from this forum it's not even funny!

Feel kinda bad that you left me out having done "alot" of pedal mods,tutorials in the vault,amp mods,etc...! On the forums since 04. ;o)

I don't wanna put words in his mouth, but I thought the 'SD' in his post was referring to you...

[stevie_bees]

TGWIF and STRATDELUXER highlight 2 variations of getting your tone. For Christian, it's all about the amp breakup, so a JTM45 would be too much. It would be very loud if used in that application.

John prefers a cleaner set amp as a base for tone colouring via pedals (incidently, the way I use my JTM45). Therefore he's able to set the amp at a lower volume setting, keeping things clean and dirtying up from his pedalboard.

I have tended to work from a clean platform over recent years, rather than the amps dirt, so my JTM45 has been perfect for me. A beautifully rounded clean tone, that I totally butcher with a Blackstar pedal and my club-fisted noodlings!

[Gypsyblue]

Different philosophies, different tones and probably much different music probably account for the difference of opinion. I can't see a leather and stud clad heavy metal guy doing gigs with a Deluxe Reverb. Wrong image.

My drummer just sat in with a friend's band and told me all about it. He said the guitarist had just purchased a new amp - some kind of 100 watt Dumble clone.

The guy could not turn the amp up loud enough to get any output tube overdrive so all of his overdrive seemed to be coming from his pedals.


Ironic. A guy spends a bundle for the ultimate in pure tube tone and then can't turn the amp up so he gets all of his distortion from solid state pedals.

That's just weird.

[Simon_F]

TGWIF and STRATDELUXER highlight 2 variations of getting your tone. For Christian, it's all about the amp breakup, so a JTM45 would be too much. It would be very loud if used in that application.

John prefers a cleaner set amp as a base for tone colouring via pedals (incidently, the way I use my JTM45). Therefore he's able to set the amp at a lower volume setting, keeping things clean and dirtying up from his pedalboard.

I have tended to work from a clean platform over recent years, rather than the amps dirt, so my JTM45 has been perfect for me. A beautifully rounded clean tone, that I totally butcher with a Blackstar pedal and my club-fisted noodlings!

And then there is the third way - master volume amps. Crusty calls them a compromise and I understand where he's coming from, but it's a compromise I like. For most gigs my MV Marshalls are turned up enough for the power stage to be adding it's magic, but even when they're not I prefer the Marshall pre-amp dirt to using pedals for the music I play.

And then there is the fourth way - attenuators.

We guitarists of today are lucky boys having so many toys to choose from.

I'm with Stevie on the club-fisted noodling though.

And John and Christian should get a room!

[STRATDELUXER97]

And then there is the third way - master volume amps. Crusty calls them a compromise and I understand where he's coming from, but it's a compromise I like. For most gigs my MV Marshalls are turned up enough for the power stage to be adding it's magic, but even when they're not I prefer the Marshall pre-amp dirt to using pedals for the music I play.

And then there is the fourth way - attenuators.

We guitarists of today are lucky boys having so many toys to choose from.

I'm with Stevie on the club-fisted noodling though.

And John and Christian should get a room!

Nice comment buddy! ;o) It's funny,I've tryed both an attenuator and the PI master volume with my Marshall head and never cared for it...I still find I can get the different tones and versatility using the pedals that fit our band's songs/styles....

[STRATDELUXER97]

TGWIF and STRATDELUXER highlight 2 variations of getting your tone. For Christian, it's all about the amp breakup, so a JTM45 would be too much. It would be very loud if used in that application.

John prefers a cleaner set amp as a base for tone colouring via pedals (incidently, the way I use my JTM45). Therefore he's able to set the amp at a lower volume setting, keeping things clean and dirtying up from his pedalboard.

I have tended to work from a clean platform over recent years, rather than the amps dirt, so my JTM45 has been perfect for me. A beautifully rounded clean tone, that I totally butcher with a Blackstar pedal and my club-fisted noodlings!

I'm really liking the Blackstar 20 watt head and I think I'm kinda leaning in that direction....I really only use a bit of delay and a verbzilla with a setting that gives me a bigger/ambient sound...I can run these into the effects loop..

[STRATDELUXER97]

I don't wanna put words in his mouth, but I thought the 'SD' in his post was referring to you...

I see this now and thanks for the clarification.... ;o)

[STRATDELUXER97]

Is pissing matches worse than kidney stones?

Kidney Stones are much worse! ;o)

[SirJackdeFuzz]

Ironic. A guy spends a bundle for the ultimate in pure tube tone and then can't turn the amp up so he gets all of his distortion from solid state pedals.

That's just weird.

. . . we live in sad times !


Where are the days when 100W was barely enough !???

[STRATDELUXER97]

. . . we live in sad times !


Where are the days when 100W was barely enough !???

With all the great P.A. stuff available,guess alot of us don't need 100 watts and 2 stacks behind us! Sure looks cool though! ;o)

[SirJackdeFuzz]

With all the great P.A. stuff available,guess alot of us don't need 100 watts and 2 stacks behind us! Sure looks cool though! ;o)

It sure does !

Just ask Amber of Jucifer (...every cab is pluged in and moving air), and Wata !

[STRATDELUXER97]

It sure does !

Just ask Amber of Jucifer (...every cab is pluged in and moving air), and Wata !

All I can say is wow! How much of that backline is actually for sound though and not show?

[xxxplorer]

Yes, SD did mean Stratdeluxer. So many helpful people on this forum. SirJackedfuzz and King Izo))) as well and lots of others.

[Gunny47]

Nice thoughts, cats! It really sums up the random gear-thoughts I've been having lately.

I'll chime in more later

[STRATDELUXER97]

Yes, SD did mean Stratdeluxer. So many helpful people on this forum. SirJackedfuzz and King Izo))) as well and lots of others.

Thanks for that...Alot of really great people on the forums!

[King IzzO)))]

Haha, I don't feel worthy of mention, I'm actually a drummer.

That said, I know I'm a neanderthal, but I don't think a JTM45 would carry over my drumming, seriously, ask Drew if he ever comes around again.

I practice at home with a little 5w amp and use pedals, sounds OK, but I wouldn't want to record anything with it (I really need a decent practice/home recording amp). For the type of gigs I would be playing (if I were playing guitar in a band) I might feel just adequate with my Butcher full stack or my Boogie rig (Mark III with a 4x12 and a 2x12). I practice with either at pretty much show volume when I'm at the space. The Mig60 and DC-5 I used to have were neither loud enough, that's why I don't have them anymore.

We're all just doing such different things, so it's not so easy to say whether a JTM45 would work for you or not. To me it would be a practice/special sound amp, like why I want a tweed deluxe. To some doing blues gigs, or wedding gigs, or something else, volume really could be an issue.

[JeffB]

Practical? No.

Fun. Yes.

There is a reason MV amps came to the forefront.

NMV, MV, doesn't matter until those speakers are moving some air.