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    Default Adding a cover to an uncovered HB

    So I know SD sells chrome covers. I have an uncovered APH-1. Is putting a cover on as simple as placing it over and soldering it on? How will it change the sound?

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    Default Re: Adding a cover to an uncovered HB

    Yes.

    It will very slightly soften the attack. Chrome less so than nickel.
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    Default Re: Adding a cover to an uncovered HB

    I always place a piece of masking tape over the slug coils before putting the cover on...
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    Default Re: Adding a cover to an uncovered HB

    Just soldering on a metal cover will almost certainly help to induce microphonic squeal under high gain.

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    Default Re: Adding a cover to an uncovered HB

    Ok... What's the masking tape for? And what will help stop feedback?

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    Default Re: Adding a cover to an uncovered HB

    I think that the cover has to be firmly pressed against the top of the pickup to stop it vibrating too. I've also heard of people putting a few drops of silicone sealant before putting the cover on

    http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/pick...ps-covers.html

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    Default Re: Adding a cover to an uncovered HB

    Quote Originally Posted by Mincer View Post
    Ok... What's the masking tape for? And what will help stop feedback?
    Takes care of microphonic issues.....
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    Default Re: Adding a cover to an uncovered HB

    I have covered Gibson pickups before with no problem. I just recently covered a Duncan TB pickup with a genuine Duncan TB cover and it was a very tight fit. After covered, the pickup hasn't worked correctly. I believe the cover was tight enough that it ruined a coil. But I don't know for sure. Might be fixable, but I don't know. More info in this thread:

    http://www.seymourduncan.com/forum/s...d.php?t=243872

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    Default Re: Adding a cover to an uncovered HB

    On some pickups it may be necessary to remove the pole pieces
    And some folks like a bit of wax to prevent squeal

    Some folks like a LOT of wax
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    Default Re: Adding a cover to an uncovered HB

    yes, the tape will help reduce the metal slugs vibrating against the metal cover, which can lead to microphonic feedback. OR you can wax/pot the cover first (what I do). either is fine.


    I've bought official SD covers to use on SD pickups and not had any problems. standard spaced and f-spaced. neck and bridge. the SD covers are pretty transparent, but yes, there will always be at least a very slight difference. some people may hear it. some may not. unless you're really all-out in sync with every little nuance that your guitar has, you probably won't.

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    I started doing magnet swaps in 2004 and had to learn a few things the hard way! ;o)
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    Default Re: Adding a cover to an uncovered HB

    My guess is that Trembucker covers aren't the same as standard ones...

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    Default Re: Adding a cover to an uncovered HB

    Quote Originally Posted by Mincer View Post
    My guess is that Trembucker covers aren't the same as standard ones...
    The measures in Trembucker p'ups are proprietary, so no cover other than Duncans will correctly fit.

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    Default Re: Adding a cover to an uncovered HB

    Quote Originally Posted by Chad View Post
    I just recently covered a Duncan TB pickup with a genuine Duncan TB cover and it was a very tight fit. After covered, the pickup hasn't worked correctly. I believe the cover was tight enough that it ruined a coil.
    I've installed my fair share of Trembuckers covers and never, ever had a malfunction of any kind. But if I had, I'd certainly NOT blame the cover...
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    Default Re: Adding a cover to an uncovered HB

    Quote Originally Posted by Mincer View Post
    So I know SD sells chrome covers. I have an uncovered APH-1. Is putting a cover on as simple as placing it over and soldering it on? How will it change the sound?
    This is a good video for take'em off and put'em back the right way.



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    Default Re: Adding a cover to an uncovered HB

    I almost always dip 'em in wax after putting a cover on to prevent the microphonics.
    Originally Posted by IanBallard
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    Default Re: Adding a cover to an uncovered HB

    If you want to do it like SD does you put some wax on top of the slug bobbin and later melt it.

    The sound change from the cover has been explained, but there is a second factor:

    with the cover on, people usually take the screws up. The pickup is lower but the screw heads are out at the same distance from the strings. This is a sound change in itself.

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    Default Re: Adding a cover to an uncovered HB

    Quote Originally Posted by GuitarDoc View Post
    I almost always dip 'em in wax after putting a cover on to prevent the microphonics.
    do you just do it for a few seconds or for several minutes?

    I've tried dipping the cover and then putting the cover on, as well as putting the cover on and dipping the whole thing. can't say I've heard much of a difference either way, but both options are just about as interesting to try.



    Quote Originally Posted by uOpt View Post
    The sound change from the cover has been explained, but there is a second factor:

    with the cover on, people usually take the screws up. The pickup is lower but the screw heads are out at the same distance from the strings. This is a sound change in itself.

    agreed. when people raise the screws for a cover, it does change the magnetic field. I wonder how many people factor that in as much as if they are just raising the poles for the sake of appearance.

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    Default Re: Adding a cover to an uncovered HB

    Some of the bad experiences people have had,is due to using a non-SD cover...On some of my guitars I like/have the covers,but on my SG with Creme covers,I don't.
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