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Bright and airy, focus on highs
Open and Crunchy, focus on upper mids
Thick and articulate, focus on lower mids
Dark and ominous, focus on lows
Re: User Group Pickup Specs Poll #5
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Re: User Group Pickup Specs Poll #5
What is the plan for separating the two?Originally Posted by pinto79
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do you guys build guitars?
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Open and Crunchy for me.
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Thick and articulate. It can split to open and crunchy or bright and airy, especially if one coil is wound differently from the other - pick your coil to split to.
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I don't know that I understand your question. Can you elaborate?
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I do.
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The root of what I'm saying is that in this thread, you said that the last poll was about output, while this one is about tone. However, in the last poll, the word "output" was not used. "Tone" was the word used. "How do you like your tone?" was the question in poll #4. The question in this poll is, "How should our pickups sound?"
The question has the same fundamental meaning. "How do you like your tone" vs. "How should our pickups sound?" It's just that the last poll used metaphors, while this one is using plain-old adjectives. It's as if there was a vote for president, and one cat won. Then the Minister of Elections announces that that was actually the vote for vice president after all, and now we are gonna have the REAL presidential election.
I am really curious to know how many people here thought that the last poll was really about sheer "output," when the question asked was, "How do you like your tone?"
My question, "How do you plan to separate the two" means, "What will we do if we get two different answers to the same question?" Despite these logistical errors, we are probably going to be OK, because the same choice is going to win this poll as won the last one. But the repetition in the polls could have created a real disaster for MJ.
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Sorry man, you're alone on this one.
The last poll was crystal clear that it was to decide the hotness, if you will, of the pickup using the steak metaphor, from rare/vintage to burnt/super hot & modern.
This poll is about the tonality of the medium hotness pickup. Will it be a pickup focused on the highs, the mid-highs, the mids, the mid-lows or the lows.
I agree that sometimes the definitions/descriptions were ambiguous/confusing but the bottom line was always clear.
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It's "crystal clear" that output is described by "How do you like your tone," and "I'm going to treat the tone like a steak?" If output was what was meant, why use the word "tone" twice?
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The TITLE of the poll wasn't worded correctly, but you have to be extremely stupid to not get the fact that the poll was deciding output if you looked at the poll options
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LOL. OK, noted. I'm extremely stupid. But...I'm stupid and right in this case.
What were the poll options? How many of them mention the pickups output? Maybe 4.5 of them out of 7. How many mention its tone? 6 out of 7. In that first poll, tone and output were treated as if they were one and the same. Now we are saying that tone was no part of the last poll. OK, man...
If the poll was about output, why on Earth didn't the poll simply ask, "What should the output of our pickup be?" Why didn't Pinto's initial post use the word "output" at all? In both cases, the word "tone" was used.
And again, how were we planning on reconciling what could very well have been conflicting poll results? What if we wanted a monstrous output, but an open and airy tone? Or low output, but a dark, treble-scooped sound? Output and tone are very much interconnected. You can separate them to some degree, but there are limits.
Look, it's gonna turn out fine simply because of the way people voted, but it it's a joke pretending that this is extremely clear and well thought out, and that anyone who is confused by it is an idiot.
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Ok, after re-reading the poll, I can see what you mean; it's not crystal clear at all. I still think that with a little critical thinking, the poll delineates output. Anyway, it's a moot point after all. Sorry to be rude, I didn't have my coffee
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Some of you guys are taking this way too seriously.
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The only thing I want to know is why there isn't at least 1 more poll going. We really need to be wrapping this up and arguing about ambiguous adjectives isn't really conducive to anything other than limiting MJ's creativity.
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Wow, I wonder if this is how things usually go for forum pickup. Leads me to wonder, how many will actually buy it to justify the effort for a low volume production.
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That's probably hard to predict. I have a hunch that the Phat Staple was hindered by it's depth so that people couldn't mount it and the Strabros by most Strat wiring's inability to split. I think humbuckers that fit most guitars and are expected to work without additional switches will be more successful.
I for one buy all of these pickups that come out of the custom shop and have a special forum price.
I also see real demand for a pickup that does something new in the neck position of a Les Paul, be it being less boomy or be it sounding like nothing else before.
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Oh dear god. Seriously. Some of you guys just look for ways to nitpick and fight.
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Hmm, there have been some oddballs at times but all in all, pretty much every pickup was a success in the sense that it served its' intended purpose.
Unfortunately I wasn't around for the BroBucker but I loved the Crazy 8 and the StraBro 90s (I got a set of 3 and put the 2 in the same HSS guitar as the Crazy 8).
Sadly I didn't have anywhere to put the Staples pickup but this one I am buying at least one, probably two of them.
Most people voting here appear to think/feel the same way so it always works out in the end usually
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This describes my intent.
I apologize for any confusion. The last one was meant as Output, this one for tonality.
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