Results 1 to 14 of 14

Thread: Is it common to have to deepen pickup cavities on Gibsons?

  1. #1
    Tone Member jones's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Milwaukee.
    Posts
    106
    Likes (Given)
    9
    Likes (Received)
    0

    Default Is it common to have to deepen pickup cavities on Gibsons?

    I have an issue I'm rather surprised by. I am trying to setup my ES339. The pole piece screws in the neck are hitting the bottom of the route and I can't lower the pickup any more. I looked into it and it seems that 3/4's of an inch is the standard length of the poles, so it seems the problem is the route and changing pick ups won't help the issue. I'm not doing anything radical, pretty much trying to get it to factory specs. Anyone else ever run into this?

  2. #2
    SmoothCriminalologist JOLLY's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    Middle Tennessee
    Age
    46
    Posts
    41,626
    Likes (Given)
    2
    Likes (Received)
    691

    Default Re: Is it common to have to deepen pickup cavities on Gibsons?

    I've never had a problem with any of mine, but I also don't have an ES-339.

  3. #3
    Imperator of Indignation idsnowdog's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    The UN Cafeteria
    Age
    41
    Posts
    13,790
    Likes (Given)
    3
    Likes (Received)
    242

    Default Re: Is it common to have to deepen pickup cavities on Gibsons?

    Quote Originally Posted by jones View Post
    I have an issue I'm rather surprised by. I am trying to setup my ES339. The pole piece screws in the neck are hitting the bottom of the route and I can't lower the pickup any more. I looked into it and it seems that 3/4's of an inch is the standard length of the poles, so it seems the problem is the route and changing pick ups won't help the issue. I'm not doing anything radical, pretty much trying to get it to factory specs. Anyone else ever run into this?
    Cut the poles flush with the baseplate. It will improve the clarity and note definition of the pickup and give you the clearance you need. If the legs are too long you can also swap the baseplate to one with shorter legs.
    Last edited by idsnowdog; 07-29-2012 at 06:12 PM.

  4. #4
    Lord of The Riff darthphineas's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    TX
    Posts
    1,206
    Likes (Given)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    48

    Default Re: Is it common to have to deepen pickup cavities on Gibsons?

    do you have the long mounting legs or the short mounting legs?

    better yet, you can also do something similar to what Lee Roy Parnell does to his Gibson LP. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgVgr20cYHg go to around the 5:15 mark. a variation that might work for you is that if you have the clearance, you can drill out small, short holes for each pole piece to go right down in to. Lee Roy calls it a 'tone throne'.

  5. #5
    SmoothCriminalologist JOLLY's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    Middle Tennessee
    Age
    46
    Posts
    41,626
    Likes (Given)
    2
    Likes (Received)
    691

    Default Re: Is it common to have to deepen pickup cavities on Gibsons?

    Quote Originally Posted by darthphineas View Post
    do you have the long mounting legs or the short mounting legs?

    better yet, you can also do something similar to what Lee Roy Parnell does to his Gibson LP. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgVgr20cYHg go to around the 5:15 mark. a variation that might work for you is that if you have the clearance, you can drill out small, short holes for each pole piece to go right down in to. Lee Roy calls it a 'tone throne'.
    Damn. I love everything about that guitar!! That's what I call a true signature guitar.

  6. #6
    PRSlustologist Luke Duke's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    Randland
    Age
    31
    Posts
    6,029
    Likes (Given)
    2
    Likes (Received)
    17

    Default Re: Is it common to have to deepen pickup cavities on Gibsons?

    Pole pieces or pickup screws? You say polepieces but describe a pickup screw problem.
    You'll use it, boy, and as long as you hate using it, you will use it more wisely than most men would. Wait. If ever you don't hate it any longer, then will be the time to throw it as far as you can and run the other way.”
    —Elyas Machera to Perrin

  7. #7
    Tone Member jones's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Milwaukee.
    Posts
    106
    Likes (Given)
    9
    Likes (Received)
    0

    Default Re: Is it common to have to deepen pickup cavities on Gibsons?

    For now I've adjusted it so the rest off the pickup is farther away by moving the pole pieces out and letting the body drop. Not sure what I'm going to do. Scratching my head, these things cost over two grand street! Shouldn't have to disassemble the guitar and modify it to set it up to factory specs! The pole pieces are touching the bottom of the cavity, and with the strings height and neck adjusted to spec, they are 2/32nds from the strings when they should be able to reach 3/32nd. I still love this guitar though...

  8. #8
    Tone Member jones's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Milwaukee.
    Posts
    106
    Likes (Given)
    9
    Likes (Received)
    0

    Default Re: Is it common to have to deepen pickup cavities on Gibsons?

    I've seen people recommend cutting the pole pieces, I'm not really that handy, does anyone sell shorter pieces?

  9. #9
    Unremarkable Tone Slacker formula73's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Portsmouth, VA
    Age
    33
    Posts
    4,571
    Likes (Given)
    899
    Likes (Received)
    267

    Default Re: Is it common to have to deepen pickup cavities on Gibsons?

    Quote Originally Posted by darthphineas View Post
    do you have the long mounting legs or the short mounting legs?

    better yet, you can also do something similar to what Lee Roy Parnell does to his Gibson LP. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgVgr20cYHg go to around the 5:15 mark. a variation that might work for you is that if you have the clearance, you can drill out small, short holes for each pole piece to go right down in to. Lee Roy calls it a 'tone throne'.
    I'd drill a bit for the screws and no more. My EN-V has very shallow routs and had very short mounting screws with the original EMGs. Drill a little bit down in under the ears and normal length screws fit. Took 3 minutes. No big deal. I don't see why it wouldn't work for your screw poles.

    Edit: and you are ABSOLUTELY right. You shouldn't NEED to do this. It might be a pain in the ass but see if there's something Gibson will do. That's definitely a defect, easy to fix or not.
    Quote Originally Posted by Empty Pockets View Post
    the Les Paul is the ultimate electric guitar.
    i know that's a pretty heavy statement to make and a bunch of dudes that love Teles and shredsticks are gona argue with me, but they're wrong.
    anything you can't do on a Les Paul is because you haven't practiced enough or you don't rock hard enough.
    Quote Originally Posted by sosomething View Post
    You put the "pow" in "power bottom."
    Quote Originally Posted by MetalManiac View Post
    *Thumpety Thump Thump Thump...WHOMP WHOMP WHOMP"

  10. #10
    Lord of The Riff darthphineas's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    TX
    Posts
    1,206
    Likes (Given)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    48

    Default Re: Is it common to have to deepen pickup cavities on Gibsons?

    Quote Originally Posted by jones View Post
    I've seen people recommend cutting the pole pieces, I'm not really that handy, does anyone sell shorter pieces?
    Cutting the pole pieces (or using shorter ones) is going to change the magnetic field and alter the sound of your pickup. Unless that's what you want to do.

  11. #11
    Tone Member jones's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Milwaukee.
    Posts
    106
    Likes (Given)
    9
    Likes (Received)
    0

    Default Re: Is it common to have to deepen pickup cavities on Gibsons?

    The ring was mounted backwards. SMH. Now it measures a perfect 3/32nds with the pole pieces touching the bottom of the route.

  12. #12
    Mojo's Minions ItsaBass's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Location
    U.S.A.
    Posts
    6,942
    Likes (Given)
    271
    Likes (Received)
    425

    Default Re: Is it common to have to deepen pickup cavities on Gibsons?

    Cool video. My favorite line: "Imagine that; a guitar player gettin' the wrong idea..." ha ha.

    I put my pickups low a lot of the time, and I do run into that problem. The pickup starts to angle toward the slug side once the screws hit the bottom and you keep lowering. At that point, you won't get any lower; all you will do is angle the pickup, so I just bring it back up to the point where it lies flush with the rings.

    Eventually I will get in there and slice off the ends of the screws, I think.
    Quote Originally Posted by LesStrat View Post
    Yogi Berra was correct.
    Quote Originally Posted by JOLLY View Post
    I do a few chord things, some crappy lead stuff, and then some rhythm stuff.

  13. #13
    Tone Member jones's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Milwaukee.
    Posts
    106
    Likes (Given)
    9
    Likes (Received)
    0

    Default Re: Is it common to have to deepen pickup cavities on Gibsons?

    I think I'd rather drill in a few shallow holes if I want to lower it more, but for now, all good. Thanks for the input!

  14. #14
    Mojo's Minions gibson175's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Blue Mountains, Australia
    Posts
    6,369
    Likes (Given)
    389
    Likes (Received)
    195

    Default Re: Is it common to have to deepen pickup cavities on Gibsons?

    Quote Originally Posted by jones View Post
    The ring was mounted backwards. SMH. Now it measures a perfect 3/32nds with the pole pieces touching the bottom of the route.
    glad it was a simple fix.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •