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    Default How to power my pedals

    Need advice. I have been researching the various options for power supplies for effects pedals. I need to power a couple of 9 volt units and two 18 volt units. Some of the 9 volt units, at a minimum, require 250 to 300ma. I have found one that offers both voltages but limits the isolated output at 250ma which is really on the edge. I like the idea of isolated outputs. Some of the ones I have looked at do not isolate the outputs but do offer the amperage needed for my needs.

    I have looked at the Voodoo Labs, Fuel Tank, and BBE Supercharger. Are there any others out there that might fit my needs???

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    Default Re: How to power my pedals

    If you use the courtesy outlet of the PPII+ to power your Brigadier, you should be set.

    Other than that, the CIOKS DC-10 should fit your bill perfectly, but it's a bit pricey.
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    Default Re: How to power my pedals

    The MC403 Looks great, but very low amperage on the 9v dc side of things.

    The CIOKS DC-10 may work, have to see what type of special cables are required for the 18volt section to work.

    I may just live with my individual wall warts and batteries.........AGHHHHGGG!

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    Default Re: How to power my pedals

    List all your pedals and their power requirements. Your opening post is too vague for me to give you any useful advice.

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    Crap, I just realized the 800mA outs are AC and not DC on the MXR/CAE....whoops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ratherdashing View Post
    List all your pedals and their power requirements. Your opening post is too vague for me to give you any useful advice.
    Bingo

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    Quote Originally Posted by ratherdashing View Post
    List all your pedals and their power requirements. Your opening post is too vague for me to give you any useful advice.
    The first three (3) are my Main pedals for my acoustic setup but I would like to power the entire list on one board.

    Strymon Brigadier delay 9 volts

    Danelectro Cool Cat Chorus 18 volts

    Pigtronix Keymaster mixer pedal 18 volts

    Hardwire RV-7 reverb 9 volts

    Hardwire DL-8 delay/looper 9 volts

    Line 6 constrictor (compressor pedal) 9 volts

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    Quote Originally Posted by briggleman View Post
    The first three (3) are my Main pedals for my acoustic setup but I would like to power the entire list on one board.

    Strymon Brigadier delay 9 volts

    Danelectro Cool Cat Chorus 18 volts

    Pigtronix Keymaster mixer pedal 18 volts

    Hardwire RV-7 reverb 9 volts

    Hardwire DL-8 delay/looper 9 volts

    Line 6 constrictor (compressor pedal) 9 volts
    Ok, well the bad news is you have a LOT of high current pedals (underlined), so there aren't really any single power supplies that will help you. The 18V units are problematic as well.

    The good news is that the 18V units aren't high current, so at least there's that.

    You could do it with a Pedal Power Digital (Strymon, RV-7, DL-8, Constrictor) and a Pedal Power ISO 5 with a voltage doubling cable (Cool Cat, Keymaster), but I don't know of any single power supply that can handle all that you need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ratherdashing View Post
    Ok, well the bad news is you have a LOT of high current pedals (underlined), so there aren't really any single power supplies that will help you. The 18V units are problematic as well.

    The good news is that the 18V units aren't high current, so at least there's that.

    You could do it with a Pedal Power Digital (Strymon, RV-7, DL-8, Constrictor) and a Pedal Power ISO 5 with a voltage doubling cable (Cool Cat, Keymaster), but I don't know of any single power supply that can handle all that you need.
    I agree, this is your best bet...it won't be cheap but after a few weeks of not buying batteries every time you turn around and also not dealing with the issues that come with cheaper supplies it'll be worth it!

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    Default Re: How to power my pedals

    Actually, the Cioks DC-10 will be able to power all those pedals and more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kindred_Spirits View Post
    Actually, the Cioks DC-10 will be able to power all those pedals and more.
    I assume you can use 2 ports for 18 volts then?

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    Default Re: How to power my pedals

    So is your total current draw less than 1000ma?

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    Quote Originally Posted by the guy who invented fire View Post
    I assume you can use 2 ports for 18 volts then?
    Yup, they make a cable for that too:



    What's even cooler is that they have a cable with an inline step-up converter that boosts the voltage to 18v (in case you don't want to use 2 outlets):


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kindred_Spirits View Post
    Actually, the Cioks DC-10 will be able to power all those pedals and more.
    Actually yeah.

    The Strymon will need to be on one of the 400 mA outlets. The Constrictor, RV-7, and DL-8 are around 100 mA each. The other two will require the voltage doubler cables, but it's definitely do-able.

    I wasn't familiar with the Cioks until this thread.

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    The ironic thing to me is that the Cioks will do it since you can chain 2 ports for 18 volts but the cost is just a hair less than that of a PP Digtal and an Iso 5!

    I've seen those Cioks power supplies but never tried one, I assume they are high quality but my assumption is based simply on the fact that they are over $200 a pop!

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    Quote Originally Posted by the guy who invented fire View Post
    The ironic thing to me is that the Cioks will do it since you can chain 2 ports for 18 volts but the cost is just a hair less than that of a PP Digtal and an Iso 5!

    I've seen those Cioks power supplies but never tried one, I assume they are high quality but my assumption is based simply on the fact that they are over $200 a pop!
    Yes, that will put a dent in the wallet for sure! I really need to weigh my options on this. Need to see total costs with cables on the Cioks vs the suggestion above about using two units.

    Really appreciate the help in this matter. I had not heard of the Cioks either until this thread. It seems to be the cleanest way to go, but I just may have more flexibility with the two power units.

    In the end, there is always a power strip with neatly run warts down the center and wire routing.

    I will keep you in the loop on this and when I finally make the leap and configure the board, you shall see the result.

    Brad

    PS Just seen that Voodoo Labs has a new pedal called the 4x4 (Est. Street $180). With the proper cable adapters ($6.00 each, I need two), it should do the trick. However it looks like it will street for very close to the Cioks (which includes all the cables I would need)
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    Quote Originally Posted by the guy who invented fire View Post
    The ironic thing to me is that the Cioks will do it since you can chain 2 ports for 18 volts but the cost is just a hair less than that of a PP Digtal and an Iso 5!

    I've seen those Cioks power supplies but never tried one, I assume they are high quality but my assumption is based simply on the fact that they are over $200 a pop!
    Yeah, that's worth thinking about. Cost isn't much different, especially when you add two 18V cables to the Cioks.

    I have nothing but good experiences with Voodoo Labs gear, and own a PP2+ and an ISO 5 myself. Voodoo Labs power supplies are powering pro rigs all over the world.

    Meanwhile, I didn't know Cioks existed until this thread. Not saying that's necessarily a bad thing in and of itself, but I can't confidently recommend them. On paper, they seem fine.

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    Default Re: How to power my pedals

    The Cioks power supplies are pricey, that is true. But I would rather have one single power supply then have to deal with the hassle of 2 to be honest. The DC-10 will still power all your pedals without the $32.99 booster flex cables.

    If you plan on adding more pedals to your board in the future, it may be a good idea to pickup both VL power supplies for the flexibility.

    I guess its sort of hard to "rate" a power supply, but since I've had my Cioks DC-10 I've had no issues whatsoever and I'm running some pretty high current draw pedals (Timeline, Space).

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    I can't say enough good about VL gear...

    Plus the added flexibility of 2 power supplies might be very nice...

    Truth is I can't see a bad option in here but I have no personal experience with the Cioks stuff so for me I'd have to go VL simply based on personal experience.

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