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    Default Is there any duncan that resembles a lower ouput JB?

    I really love the JB and dont really have any complaint except maybe the output is a but high for me,and that only cause i have a very high gain amp.
    (Engl powerball which has mega gain!)
    I dont need all that push from the pickup so is there any duncan that shares the same type of tone as the JB(singing lead tone,cool upper mids spike,crazy as hell harmonix) but is lower in output resulting in a clearer,more articulate sound?
    I have tried just lower the JB and this works some and if i have to i will just use it that way rather than not use a JB at all!
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    Default Re: Is there any duncan that resembles a lower ouput JB?

    A 59/Custom Hybrid or Pearly Gates should do the trick. If those two fail, try a magnet swap to an A4 or A3.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Myaccount876 View Post
    A 59/Custom Hybrid or Pearly Gates should do the trick. If those two fail, try a magnet swap to an A4 or A3.
    I had the hybrid so rule that one out,it did not really have much in common with the JB . what about that 78 model? i read it has great harmonics and sings?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SAVAGE DISTORTION View Post
    I had the hybrid so rule that one out,it did not really have much in common with the JB . what about that 78 model? i read it has great harmonics and sings?
    You could try it. I've never had experience with the 78 but it could work for you.

    Also, don't rule out magnet swaps. An A4 will give a more balanced EQ spectrum (probably not what you want), or the A3 which lowers output since it is a weaker magnet.



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    Default Re: Is there any duncan that resembles a lower ouput JB?

    the pg has the most similar eq curve of the pups ive tried

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    Default Re: Is there any duncan that resembles a lower ouput JB?

    You know I had the same issue with JB starting 2 years ago. I liked the tone but wanted a lower output. I ended up going all around the world, I started with DMZ Fred, and went through a dozen pickups. It was like chasing a unicorn, nothing will sound like a JB except a JB, trust me. If you want a lower output JB, try a degaussed A5, much more effective. The output is reduced, but tone is still a JB you love, only sweeter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SAVAGE DISTORTION View Post
    I had the hybrid so rule that one out,it did not really have much in common with the JB . what about that 78 model? i read it has great harmonics and sings?
    What about a JB/Custom hybrid?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lazyfinger View Post
    You know I had the same issue with JB starting 2 years ago. I liked the tone but wanted a lower output. I ended up going all around the world, I started with DMZ Fred, and went through a dozen pickups. It was like chasing a unicorn, nothing will sound like a JB except a JB, trust me. If you want a lower output JB, try a degaussed A5, much more effective. The output is reduced, but tone is still a JB you love, only sweeter.
    who sells these magnets?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeremy View Post
    the pg has the most similar eq curve of the pups ive tried
    I will give this a go since i can get one used very cheap
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    Default Re: Is there any duncan that resembles a lower ouput JB?

    Quote Originally Posted by gripweed View Post
    What about a JB/Custom hybrid?
    That wont drop the output.

    To the OP

    Im honestly not trying to be a jerk here but why turn the gain down on the amp? seems like very simple solution.

    Nothing sounds just like a JB but a JB everything else will sound different. I love the PG but it sure doesnt have the scream in the harmonics or the mid spike that the JB does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edgecrusher View Post
    That wont drop the output.

    To the OP

    Im honestly not trying to be a jerk here but why turn the gain down on the amp? seems like very simple solution.

    Nothing sounds just like a JB but a JB everything else will sound different. I love the PG but it sure doesnt have the scream in the harmonics or the mid spike that the JB does.
    with the fireball the gain is massive even when dialed back ,it is like the lead channel on a 5150 but without the fizz of course
    I am gettin a savage 120 soon though so i may really like the xtra OP of the JB then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SAVAGE DISTORTION View Post
    with the fireball the gain is massive even when dialed back ,it is like the lead channel on a 5150 but without the fizz of course
    I am gettin a savage 120 soon though so i may really like the xtra OP of the JB then?
    Have you tried backing the pup's a little away from the strings.. Literally one twist or a mm? I have a schecter damien elite with a JB sounds fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowamd View Post
    Have you tried backing the pup's a little away from the strings.. Literally one twist or a mm? I have a schecter damien elite with a JB sounds fine.
    I have it set to 4MM at the low E and 2mm at the high E,thats bill lawrences recomend. you go too low the JB loses it aggression,bite and harmonix.
    I ordered a PG so i will see what that does? worst case senario i will still get a great tone, this guy has a great tone even though his gain is no where near what i use,i still think it sound great!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SAVAGE DISTORTION View Post
    I have it set to 4MM at the low E and 2mm at the high E,thats bill lawrences recomend. you go too low the JB loses it aggression,bite and harmonix.
    I ordered a PG so i will see what that does? worst case senario i will still get a great tone, this guy has a great tone even though his gain is no where near what i use,i still think it sound great!
    Kool.. Tone seems fine to me.. I was thinking about a JB for my kramer.. I'm in drop C..



    This guy seems to be pretty low tuned and sounds awesome

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    Quote Originally Posted by SAVAGE DISTORTION View Post
    who sells these magnets?
    The Antiquity JB has a degaussed A5 in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SAVAGE DISTORTION View Post
    who sells these magnets?
    As mentioned, antiquity JB has one inside. You could also contact Duncan shop floor custom, I'm sure they can also set you up. I've never seen addiction fx sell one like that, their UOA5 comes pretty close but not quite the same. If you talk to them, they might be able to help you out as well.

    OR you can do as I did, take your standard A5, leave it stuck to a big ceramic or A8 for a day or 2. If you have small ceramic, it might take more than 2 days. Some mags are quicker to degausse, and some a little longer. Either way, it couldn't hurt to try, A5s are common

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    Why not wire the coils in parallel? Should lower the output a bit, but keep all the pickup goodness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericmeyer4 View Post
    Why not wire the coils in parallel? Should lower the output a bit, but keep all the pickup goodness.
    That will brighten it up though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dominus View Post
    That will brighten it up though.
    Adjust the tone knob

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    Default Re: Is there any duncan that resembles a lower ouput JB?

    Give the air mod a try - it lowers output and makes things a bit clearer sounding.
    Quote Originally Posted by dominus View Post
    Your rant would sound better with an A8 magnet, it'll beef it up some without sacrificing some of the whine.

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