iOS 6

[Stratman]

Great stuff from Apple again…

Now if it only took less than 2 hours to download!

[idsnowdog]

I tried to download it today and it said it would take 13 hours!

[texasguitarslinger]

I downloaded it at home in 10 minutes. Took another 5 minutes to install. It's pretty awesome!

[texasguitarslinger]

This is what I'm getting at the house:

[uOpt]

Apparently their maps aren't well-received, though.

My facebook stream is full of WTFs, in particular from Europe.

[ImmortalSix]

Going to try nav on the way home, will report.

[Ayrton]

The maps are coming from Tom Tom, so I don't know how accurate that is going to be.

[Gamera]

Just downloaded it.

- Googe maps is better. Street View alone makes it.
- everything seems a bit slower on retina iPad.
- Yahoo mail immediately times out and logs you out
- password requirements changed so old iTunes passwords that don't meet new requirements aren't recognized.

This is after using it for 15 minutes. Pretty pissed right now. Don't download it. Wait for bug fixes. This is bullsh!t.

[misterwhizzy]

I just upgraded my internet speed at the house, and I usually get about 15 Mbps, with advertised speed of 18. It's made my life a little bit easier, and the iOS6 download took about fifteen minutes. I haven't played around with it much yet, but I can sleep easy knowing that software has not outpaced me.

[trevorus]

Early release will always be buggy. Especially when they changed so much. If I ever get an iPod touch again, it'll be interesting to fiddle with.

[ImmortalSix]

Got it in 9 minutes this afternoon. No big deal at all.

Nice so far, not much changed for my usage.

[crguti]

It's much faster. I like it so far.

[idsnowdog]

It took forever but both my iPad and iPhone are updated. I don't see the point of having to download the same update twice for each device?

[garublador]

Sorry, I couldn't help myself.

Say what you will about Apple, but they would never let a product out the door that had these types of usability issues.

Apparently their maps aren't well-received, though.

My facebook stream is full of WTFs, in particular from Europe.

Just downloaded it.

- Googe maps is better. Street View alone makes it.
- everything seems a bit slower on retina iPad.
- Yahoo mail immediately times out and logs you out
- password requirements changed so old iTunes passwords that don't meet new requirements aren't recognized.

This is after using it for 15 minutes. Pretty pissed right now. Don't download it. Wait for bug fixes. This is bullsh!t.

Early release will always be buggy. Especially when they changed so much. If I ever get an iPod touch again, it'll be interesting to fiddle with.

I have no problem saying that Apple put out high quality products. However, the idea that they crap gold and can do no wrong is just biased fanboyism. They're still just humans and make mistakes as well. It's not like they're engineering gods who are infallible like people (including themselves) claim. For example, Safari was considered by many security experts to be the least secure browser for a long time. Even as recent as 2011 it's been one of the easiest browsers to hack:

http://www.macrumors.com/2011/03/10/...ds-at-pwn2own/

There are lots of good reasons to own Apple products, but it's not because they are objectively better.

[Chris of Arabia]

iOS6 is just going onto the 3GS now. We'll see...

[ImmortalSix]

Sorry, I couldn't help myself.


I have no problem saying that Apple put out high quality products. However, the idea that they crap gold and can do no wrong is just biased fanboyism. They're still just humans and make mistakes as well. It's not like they're engineering gods who are infallible like people (including themselves) claim.

Steve Jobs was kind of a non-human robo-alien who crapped gold, though.

I sincerely believe that if he were still around, the maps update would have been better or not released at all.

[ErikH]

Just installed it this morning on my iPhone 4. I like it so far.

[ImmortalSix]

Maps: terrible, in every single way. Very "junior varsity," insultingly bad.

I live in a new neighborhood, and while Google Maps had my street address (I added the street myself in Google MapMaker, the edit was accepted within a week, and it was added to Google Maps for all the world to see)

When I searched for my address, Apple Maps completely ignored the City, State, and ZIP code that I entered and took me to Baldwin City, Kansas. That's about 1000 miles from my house.

I am a GIS / mapping professional, and that type of logic is never supposed to be used in mapping. The rule of thumb for mapping is start big and get smaller - if you know it's in the US, constrain your search to the US. This saves time because you're not searching the whole world. If you know it's in Virginia, same deal, constrain your search to Virginia, and save time not searching all of the US, and so on.

Me having provided the City, State, and ZIP should have, at the very, very worst, placed me at the centroid of the ZIP code's polygon.

Definitely not in Kansas.

[Gamera]

I sincerely believe that if he were still around, the maps update would have been better or not released at all.

Getting rid of Google maps was purely a business decision. Unfortunately the Apple solution isn't up to par and they're gonna get flack for it and rightly so. Google isn't perfect either but their maps kicks all kinds of ass. They've put a ton of work into it, I mean who else has a fleet of camera cars that drive around the world taking pictures of streets? You can't replace that functionality by adding a couple 3D buildings. And if you live outside a major city you don't even get that. Disappointing.

[uOpt]

Sorry, I couldn't help myself.


I have no problem saying that Apple put out high quality products. However, the idea that they crap gold and can do no wrong is just biased fanboyism. They're still just humans and make mistakes as well. It's not like they're engineering gods who are infallible like people (including themselves) claim. For example, Safari was considered by many security experts to be the least secure browser for a long time. Even as recent as 2011 it's been one of the easiest browsers to hack:

http://www.macrumors.com/2011/03/10/...ds-at-pwn2own/

There are lots of good reasons to own Apple products, but it's not because they are objectively better.

The problem here isn't that one or the other is better.

There is little question that Apple puts a lot more effort into polishing their products so that they look better, that they are easier to pick up for new users and present less surprises for existing users. Google also seems to face some challenges with recent UI decision making but let's not go there.

The problem is: this doesn't mean that Apple can overcome the massive amounts of (non-UI) effort that Google has put into some products, and maps are just the tip of the iceberg. Some Google UIs might suck, but some Google products are very hard to beat and Apple should better not cut off IOS users from these products.

If I had it my way they would also offer an Android and a desktop version of Apple maps but I guess the chances of that are rather slim