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    Hello fellas,

    I'm selling a 1989 Les Paul Custom for a customer of mine, and was asked by a potential buyer what pickups are in it. I have no clue. What is the best way to get this info?

    They seem to be decent pickups...hotter than my Pearly Gates and 59, yet still quite articulate. They sound good.

    Thanks for any info...

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    Could be Bill Lawrence "The Original" HB-R/HB-L Circuit Board Back Humbuckers.
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    Well, I measured them "in-circuit" and they both are 7.4K. Maybe they are some kind of more "vintagey", "P.A.F. y" type of pickup? I'm not going to pull them or take pics or anything...I don't think it's that big a deal.

    I did notice that when playing with high gain, they do have some feedback...maybe some unpotted type of pup?

    Another thing I noticed that I'm curious about...when I turn the tone knob down on the bridge pup, it's like the pedal up position on a wah, more hollow than muffled. Kind of cool, but not what I really expect from a tone control. Speculations?

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    Default Re: '89 Les Paul Custom...what pups are in it?

    I'd take off the back cover panel and look for signs of rewiring, either PU's or pots. Only takes a few minutes to loosen the strings and check the PU's.
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    I went through and cleaned all the pots and switches...there is no sign of any rewiring. Still, I'm intrigued now, so I will take some pics of the backs of the pups.

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    Default Re: '89 Les Paul Custom...what pups are in it?

    Neck:


    Bridge:

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    Tim Shaw era T Tops....

    Or did all of them have the ink stamp?
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    Default Re: '89 Les Paul Custom...what pups are in it?

    Is it possible that I read the serial number wrong and that this guitar is actually from the early to mid 80s, rather than '89? Hmmm...

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    Those are Shaws, I'm almost positive...they look right and the DC range is spot on!

    Is there anything special about the LPC??

    Heritage series, reissue type/style, anything??
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    Another note...guitars from that era often came with 300k, 200k...even 100k pots!!!

    I had a real hard time really loving the Shaws in my Moderne...pulled the stock (100K) volume and tone pots and replaced them with 500k...night and day difference...good turned to great real fast!
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    It's got the factory Kahler and "fold-out" tuners. Oh, and some strange looking strap buttons. That's about it.

    Would these pups increase the value of the guitar? We have it listed at $1200 right now.

    I've never been into Les Pauls, and really don't know much about them. I never realized there was so many variations. Thanks for your help.

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    That era LPC with those features don't really bring a ton of cash but because it has the Shaws it might be a slightly easier sell...

    Shaws on their own can bring decent money but nothing too crazy...I see them prices at $400 a set give or take all the time but I never see them really bring that.

    As for the guitar as a whole...I dunno what it's really worth.

    You're going to be met with a bunch of "It's a vintage Gibson, it's worth this much money" but you're also going to be met with "it's a Norlin era and not the model folks want so it's worth this much..."

    I dunno to be honest but I do now that the chrome hardware versions with the tremolo systems bring less than the typical stop tailpiece/gold hardware versions...
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    Good info, thanks.

    I dunno to be honest but I do now that the chrome hardware versions with the tremolo systems bring less than the typical stop tailpiece/gold hardware versions...
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    Default Re: '89 Les Paul Custom...what pups are in it?

    nice t-top 1989 Tim Shaws there bud.
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    Default Re: '89 Les Paul Custom...what pups are in it?

    Guys, T Tops and Shaws are different pickups.

    Different winds, different wire and different magnets.
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    Default Re: '89 Les Paul Custom...what pups are in it?

    Yep, t-tops are quite different to shaws.

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    Default Re: '89 Les Paul Custom...what pups are in it?

    Quote Originally Posted by BrianS. View Post


    Would these pups increase the value of the guitar? We have it listed at $1200 right now.
    With regular wear on an old guitar that thing will probably sell quickly at that price, especially a custom, I'd say put $1500 and let them haggle... whatever floats your boat
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