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    Default Wiring gurus: Help with grounding.

    To the wiring gurus out there, I need some help with a Jazzmaster mod I am trying. I've merged the wiring schematics for a 2 humbucker, 2 volume, 2 tone layout with a phase reversal switch (the JM's DPTP switch for what is normally the rhythm circuit). In this case, the rhythm pickup is phase reversable (or should be, I should say).

    My problem is that the schematics call for each pot (tone and volume) to have a ground coming from their third terminals, and normally I solder this to the back or side of the pots. Problem is that I can't get the solder to stick to the JM's 1M and 50k pots because of the type of metal.

    My question: Can I just wire the two terminals together and then wire them to the common ground point (in this case I am using the stock ground point which is a wire that leads to one of the bridge studs)?

    NB: I have wired up several guitars, but I am a complete novice when it comes down to it, so forgive me if I am using incorrect terms.
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    Default Re: Wiring gurus: Modding a Jazzmaster, help with grounding.

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    Default Re: Wiring gurus: Modding a Jazzmaster, help with grounding.

    Hi road; Electrically speaking, the only "ground" thats truly important in a guitar, is the one on the output jack. Obviously, the electrical components, (pups, volume, tone, caps), must also be grounded, but you can connect everything there. Thats what I do.

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    Default Re: Wiring gurus: Modding a Jazzmaster, help with grounding.

    Try sandpapering the back of those small sized 1M and 50K pots...

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    Default Re: Wiring gurus: Modding a Jazzmaster, help with grounding.

    Quote Originally Posted by ArtieToo
    Hi road; Electrically speaking, the only "ground" thats truly important in a guitar, is the one on the output jack. Obviously, the electrical components, (pups, volume, tone, caps), must also be grounded, but you can connect everything there. Thats what I do.
    Hi ArtieToo, thanks for the reply! Does that mean I can actually just solder everything to the ground terminal on the jack and forgo soldering anything to the bridge grounding point?

    Stratman - Thanks for the tip, great idea, I will give it a shot!

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    Default Re: Wiring gurus: Modding a Jazzmaster, help with grounding.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stratman
    Try sandpapering the back of those small sized 1M and 50K pots...
    Bingo! That's one way to do it- I will usually scrape the back of the pot with a sharp stainless steel tool (Xcelite electrician's scissors to be exact). My feeling is that the scratches will help the solder stick to the pot better.

    In any case, it is the coating on the metal that keeps the solder from sticking properly and however you remove the coating it will work much better.

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    Default Re: Wiring gurus: Modding a Jazzmaster, help with grounding.

    Quote Originally Posted by roadsleeper
    Hi ArtieToo, thanks for the reply! Does that mean I can actually just solder everything to the ground terminal on the jack and forgo soldering anything to the bridge grounding point?
    Not exactly. If there's a wire that comes from the bridge, you still want to ground that. Its just that you can use the negative terminal of the output jack, rather than the back of the pot, if you want.

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    Default Re: Wiring gurus: Modding a Jazzmaster, help with grounding.

    Quote Originally Posted by ArtieToo
    Not exactly. If there's a wire that comes from the bridge, you still want to ground that. Its just that you can use the negative terminal of the output jack, rather than the back of the pot, if you want.
    Great, that's what I needed to know! Thanks a billion, you rock!

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    Default Re: Wiring gurus: Modding a Jazzmaster, help with grounding.

    Just wanted to let those of you who pitched in with help, I finished up rewiring the ol' JM and it worked! No buzz, no hum and the phase reversal works! Unfortunately, the pickups are the stock MIJ JM single coils, so they're on the (really, really) weak side... Hmmm... the SD JM Quarter Pounders are looking mighty tempting now! Anyway thanks again all!

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    Default Re: Wiring gurus: Modding a Jazzmaster, help with grounding.

    Quote Originally Posted by roadsleeper
    Just wanted to let those of you who pitched in with help, I finished up rewiring the ol' JM and it worked! No buzz, no hum and the phase reversal works! Unfortunately, the pickups are the stock MIJ JM single coils, so they're on the (really, really) weak side... Hmmm... the SD JM Quarter Pounders are looking mighty tempting now! Anyway thanks again all!
    I put SD Quarter Pounders in my Jaguar - Lot's of volume and tone

    I put HD P-90's in my Jazzmaster - Lot's of volume and some tone, not the best

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    Default Re: Wiring gurus: Modding a Jazzmaster, help with grounding.

    Did you have any routing issues with putting the P-90's into the jazzmaster??? Did they fit into the PU covers???

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    Default Re: Wiring gurus: Modding a Jazzmaster, help with grounding.

    Quote Originally Posted by ryhonkus
    Did you have any routing issues with putting the P-90's into the jazzmaster??? Did they fit into the PU covers???
    I purchased a new pick-guard for it, but the dimensions are identical...

    HD-90 pups are made to fit.

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