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    Default HS 3way tele-style swith wiring, no both position

    Hi.

    I am installing new pickups in HS guitar and want to wire VTT using 3-way tele-style switch.
    VTT pots will be:
    - Master Volume
    - Neck Tone
    - Bridge Tone

    I want the switch to be:
    - N: Neck only with volume
    - M: Bridge only with volume
    - B: Bridge only no volume

    Can it be done?
    Thanks

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    Default Re: HS 3way tele-style swith wiring, no both position

    So you want

    Neck - V/T
    Bridge- V/T
    B- Tone only? Is this so you can get a volume boost?

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    Default Re: HS 3way tele-style swith wiring, no both position

    Can it be done? Yes.
    Can it be done with a three way Tele switch? No.
    Originally Posted by IanBallard
    Rule of thumb... the more pot you have, the better your tone.

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    Default Re: HS 3way tele-style swith wiring, no both position

    Yeah, I'd guess you'd need some sort of fancy switch in there, as the 2nd position on a Tele switch is hard-wired to combine 2 sources (pickups). You'd need some sort of discreet switching that allows you to decide what is connected or not.

    EDIT: Apparently it can be done. Artie is on the case...

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    Default Re: HS 3way tele-style swith wiring, no both position

    Quote Originally Posted by GuitarDoc View Post
    Can it be done with a three way Tele switch? No.
    Yes. Dirt simple. Gimme a sec.

    I did this quik-'n-dirty. Standard 3-way. I can elaborate later. (On my way to work.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericmeyer4 View Post
    So you want

    Neck - V/T
    Bridge- V/T
    B- Tone only? Is this so you can get a volume boost?
    Yes but not as much as a volume boost as a change of character: from cleaner sound (lower volume) to more distortion (full volume) with the amps (models) I'm using.
    Last edited by donaldr; 03-23-2016 at 05:17 AM.

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    Default Re: HS 3way tele-style swith wiring, no both position

    I was thinking of something like this?

    Neck PU --> Tone --> Switch Left 3
    Bridge PU --> Tone --> Switch Left 2 --> Switch Right 1
    Switch Left Common --> Volume --> Switch Right Common
    Switch Right Common --> Output
    Last edited by donaldr; 03-23-2016 at 11:10 AM.

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    Default Re: HS 3way tele-style swith wiring, no both position

    And then I was thinking that might work better:

    Neck PU --> Switch Left 3
    Bridge PU --> Switch Left 2 --> Switch Right 1 --> Output
    Tone --> Switch Right 3
    Tone --> Switch Right 2 --> Switch Right 1
    Switch Left Common --> Volume --> Output

    Can someone validate please?

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    Default Re: HS 3way tele-style swith wiring, no both position

    Quote Originally Posted by ArtieToo View Post
    Yes. Dirt simple. Gimme a sec.

    I did this quik-'n-dirty. Standard 3-way. I can elaborate later. (On my way to work.)

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    Yes, please elaborate. I don't see it.
    Originally Posted by IanBallard
    Rule of thumb... the more pot you have, the better your tone.

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    Default Re: HS 3way tele-style swith wiring, no both position

    I should have done this using better graphics instead of "schematic" style symbols. I'll redraw when I get a spare moment. But, maybe this will help:

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    Default Re: HS 3way tele-style swith wiring, no both position

    Quote Originally Posted by ArtieToo View Post
    I should have done this using better graphics instead of "schematic" style symbols. I'll redraw when I get a spare moment. But, maybe this will help:

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    OMG Artie, you're a genius. Yes that does indeed do what the op wants.
    Originally Posted by IanBallard
    Rule of thumb... the more pot you have, the better your tone.

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    Default Re: HS 3way tele-style swith wiring, no both position

    You're too kind. If I was actually a genius, I'd have kramersteen's diagram done by now. (Long story. Long time.)
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    Time (lack of) or other priorities do not distract from intellect.
    Originally Posted by IanBallard
    Rule of thumb... the more pot you have, the better your tone.

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    Default Re: HS 3way tele-style swith wiring, no both position

    Quote Originally Posted by ArtieToo View Post
    I should have done this using better graphics instead of "schematic" style symbols. I'll redraw when I get a spare moment. But, maybe this will help:

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    Looks good but as a noob in electronic I don't see how to wire the switch :-(

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    Quote Originally Posted by donaldr View Post
    And then I was thinking that might work better:

    Neck PU --> Switch Left 3
    Bridge PU --> Switch Left 2 --> Switch Right 1 --> Output
    Tone --> Switch Right 3
    Tone --> Switch Right 2 --> Switch Right 1
    Switch Left Common --> Volume --> Output

    Can someone validate please?
    @ArtieToo, is it the textual representation of your diagram?

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    I'll redraw that using a better pic of the switch. Just heading out of town for Easter right now. Film@11.
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    Default Re: HS 3way tele-style swith wiring, no both position

    Quote Originally Posted by ArtieToo View Post
    I'll redraw that using a better pic of the switch. Just heading out of town for Easter right now. Film@11.
    Hi @ArtieToo. I know it's been a long time, but I'm now back to this guitar and would really like a way to wire that 3-way blade switch please.

    I don't need a diagram, but something like this will work enough:
    a-1
    a-2 bridge+tone
    a-3: neck+tone
    a-A volume -> output
    b-1 wire from a-2
    b-2
    b-3
    b-A

    I cannot figure it out from your previous diagrams.
    Thanks

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