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    Quote Originally Posted by mjsmanahan35 View Post
    Fender Made in Japan

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    Overpriced in my opinion, and priced above OP's range; Fender Japan made some good instruments, but I don't understand the premium people pay to grab them over Mexican Fenders. Cheap electronics, tinny hardware with thin chrome, poor fretboards/frets, often inaccurate shaping and routing... And $500 is the lowest they seem to go for.

    Affinities... When I was a beginner, they felt really gross compared to any other guitar. Even a Jay Turser felt like a step up. Then again, things have changed, and I did mention the Bullet Mustang. Try a bunch of guitars.
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    Not an advanced opinion, just roving around on Michigan CL. I like this Squier 51:

    https://flint.craigslist.org/msg/5969884531.html

    I had one of those before and liked it a lot.

    MIM Telecaster:

    https://flint.craigslist.org/msg/5997194808.html
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    Consider saving some more money and selling the Crate and Zoom to put towards a better amp. We spend a lot of time on here talking pickups, pots, wood, bridge saddles, etc... when the amp is the majority of the tonal equation.

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    We bought a MIM Squire for $25 of Ebay, switched out the neck for ~ 100, (a real Strat neck), changed the tuners out for locking ones, (maybe $60), then locked down the bridge. We did nothind to the pickups, we reliced the body, and now we have a real live road worn 70's Stratocaster that plays and sounds authentic.
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    Hey Guys, Op here!

    The Help here has been Amazing! I just started looking into the Fender MIM Strats, Look pretty good. Also got my eyes on the vintage modified Mustang. Pretty nice looking Axe. My question is, how does the Squier take to mods. New paint, Better pups. Stuff like that?

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    I already mentioned a bit about the Squier Mustang bridges/trems. I will take a moment to *warn* you about Mustangs. But first, I'll tell you what's good about Mustangs!

    -A good Mustang vibrato set up for rocking is one of... No, it is my favorite tremolo ever; very smooth, a ton of range, and when provided a proper setup they stay in tune as well as any non-locking vibrato. If you go down-only rather than float it, you can slack the strings like a Floyd, and come back in tune. It's also not hard to lock down the tailpiece if you want a hard-tail
    -The shorter scale neck lets you bend for days, and if you're used to Gibson necks, is easier to adapt to than a Strat
    -The combined pickup setting is one of the only/best useable "both on" combinations I can think of; something about that setting on a Mustang just sounds good
    -The thin body makes upper fret access easier; like having a shaved neck joint
    -Easy "out of phase" tone if you like funk
    -Sounds as good as any Strat, once you've got them sorted
    -They. Look. Awesome.

    Now, the bad:

    -That trem I was loving a minute ago? Read back a few posts to where I've heard some Squier trem plates are made faulty, vs. US Mustang vibratos. Can be a ***** to set up. You can't adjust tailpiece height without adjusting the overall range of the trem, for one thing. Also, you need to find a balanced place where the bridge/tailpiece height are not such that the strings drag on the back of the bridge, de-stabilizing it during trem use. You can't turn the adjustment screws for the tailpiece without removing/slacking the strings, unless you want to ruin the trem pivots. Set the tailpiece too high, and the rocking bridge flops all over the place and knocks out your intonation. Even the arm has problems; don't insert it all the way or it can affect tuning, and they need work to not fall out even when tightened (It can be tricky, but for a bit of a spoiler I'll say that the rocking bridge is best set quite low to be stable, the neck is best un-shimmed, and the tailpiece should be set just high enough that the strings only touch the saddles)

    *ahem*

    -They're not very ergonomic. The trem I loved (and then complained about) so much? That tailpiece (cigar) is huge and will rub against your wrist in an uncomfortable way if you pick "properly"
    -Do they take to mods well? Yes, because higher output pickups are almost required. The tiny little body makes them non-resonant, and the pickup cover design keeps the pickups far from the ideal height; they almost can't be adjusted high enough. Also doesn't help that on the natural a Mustang bridge is a bit higher than a Strat bridge... Similar to a Jaguar bridge, but Jaguars have a different pickup mounting setup that does allow them to go high enough. High output pickups are almost mandatory to compensate
    -People don't like the switching; I don't mind it, but it takes a bit to get used to
    -If you get a faulty trem, you'll need to replace it with a US unit (Japanese units can be just as bad.) So yeah, again, "takes well to mods"
    -Again, all that work to get something that "sounds about like a Strat"

    I'm not sure whether you have the experience to understand the above, but I guess that's as "advanced" of an opinion as I can provide. I love Mustangs (have since I was about thirteen myself,) but full disclosure, it's tough for me to justify them other than the fact that vintage ones are still affordable. As for the Squier VM model? Factor in money for mods and it's less of a good deal. If you want the Mustang sound in an easier package, just get a Strat; a Mustang has a slightly more jangly timbre, but that's really it. If you don't really want the trem (and while it's great a lot of people don't,) I'd look elsewhere. Also. The new Fender Mexican hardtail Mustangs are awesome and not as challenging, if you want to go a few steps up from the Bullet (which I can't comment on since they aren't available many places... I just don't tend to like the low-line Squiers as much.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silence Kid View Post
    I already mentioned a bit about the Squier Mustang bridges/trems. I will take a moment to *warn* you about Mustangs. But first, I'll tell you what's good about Mustangs!...
    Jeez! How long did it take yo to type that one! Anyways, Thanks for the insight. Very helpful! Looking at a used MIM Strat maybe, they seem Ok?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RorySquier View Post
    Squier Affinity Series Teles and Strats are a real good deal & affordable. They sound & play great and are well built for the price. Here's a video demonstrating the sound of an Affinity Tele.





    ;>)/

    This Squier Tele would be a good choice for you and your budget but it's probably worth mentioning that in this particular video he's playing a $200 guitar through a $3,000 amplifier & there's several other variables that determine his overall tone? I'm sure you could play just about anything through that thing & have it come out sounding fantastic!!!

    With that in mind, I've got a buddy who's been playing for decades & his main guitar is an Affinity Tele! It's a fantastic player & much more capable than you'd expect! I mean he's put a lot of work into it over the years (fret level, sanded to satin neck, Etc.) plus I changed the pickups & completely re-wired it for him several years ago. He sanded off the logo a while ago & now more often than not people who don't know just think its a Warmouth build...

    My point is that the Affinity would be a great starting point & you can always build it up slowly....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace2600 View Post
    Jeez! How long did it take yo to type that one! Anyways, Thanks for the insight. Very helpful! Looking at a used MIM Strat maybe, they seem Ok?
    Some people are ok with the stock MIM pickups; they don't really do what I want a Strat pickup to do though, and they aren't a "traditional" sound if you want to emulate any Strat tone from Buddy Holly to Frusciante or Hendix. A Squier Classic Vibe/Vintage Modified is better out of the box to me, and the quality is the same if not better. And more affordable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silence Kid View Post
    Some people are ok with the stock MIM pickups; they don't really do what I want a Strat pickup to do though, and they aren't a "traditional" sound if you want to emulate any Strat tone from Buddy Holly to Frusciante or Hendix. A Squier Classic Vibe/Vintage Modified is better out of the box to me, and the quality is the same if not better. And more affordable.
    I concur. Out-of-the-box VM is better for more modern sound, while CV is for classic strat tone. However, CV will be better in the long run for it's alder body, later on you can retrofit it into whatever you want. About VM, I don't know, there's just something inherently wrong with basswood bodied stratocaster...

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    The main thing is the neck - get a guitar with a fantastic neck and upgrade as you wish - I recommend Cruiser by crafter.

    Very cheap used excellent neck, Squier standard strat fit and finish but better resonance and better neck. Can find them for under 50used as nobody has heard of them. Very underrated .


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    Hello Everyone! Just wanted to say thanks, I got my hands on a "Frankenstrat." Some Guy took American fender parts, put them on a classic vibe start body with a Mim Neck. Plays Like a dream! Thanks for all the opinions y'all gave me!
    Garrett.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace2600 View Post
    Hello Everyone! Just wanted to say thanks, I got my hands on a "Frankenstrat." Some Guy took American fender parts, put them on a classic vibe start body with a Mim Neck. Plays Like a dream! Thanks for all the opinions y'all gave me! Garrett.
    That surely is one great find!
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    Pretty great tone machine! Good for pumping out the clapton-ish vibes.

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    I agree with all those who recommended you to save up. If you already have good amp, then you can look into pedals for a change.

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