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    Default What's the point in big 100 watt heads?

    I've seen plenty of people using 100 watt heads at home for metal but you can barely get it cooking,
    So what is the point of 100 watt head?

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    Default Re: What's the point in big 100 watt heads?

    tighter thumpier lows

    imo 50w is about the perfect power for home and/or rehersal levels

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    100 watts!! Oh yeah! ! Makes you feel good! !

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    Default Re: What's the point in big 100 watt heads?

    I play a 5 watt head and the volume is still loud enough to gig with, but I do look at big Randalls and marshalls and think "damn, I want one of those.." and then say "they're expensive and what's the point?"

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    Default Re: What's the point in big 100 watt heads?

    What's the point of a fast car? A delicious meal? A sunset at the beach? A finely-crafted beer?

    What's the point of your favorite song? Your fondest memories? Your darkest fantasies?

    The point is you ENJOY them.
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    Default Re: What's the point in big 100 watt heads?

    Quote Originally Posted by Empty Pockets View Post
    What's the point of a fast car? A delicious meal? A sunset at the beach? A finely-crafted beer?

    What's the point of your favorite song? Your fondest memories? Your darkest fantasies?

    The point is you ENJOY them.
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    Default Re: What's the point in big 100 watt heads?

    Quote Originally Posted by 6stringerguy View Post
    I've seen plenty of people using 100 watt heads at home for metal but you can barely get it cooking,
    So what is the point of 100 watt head?
    Up until recently I was a loyal 100w user because they simply didn't make what I wanted in anything less.

    In the past, with the exception of certain classics (and the people who copy them) just about anything below 100w was generally a stripped down version of the 100 watter and they usually didn't sound as good as the original. They put all their design effort in the 100w, then toss out a 50w version with two less tubes as an afterthought.

    I think the Tiny Terror came out in 2008, which started the lunchbox revolution... but for the most part those were considered toys. It's really only been the last few years where amp manufacturers have started treating the sub-50w market as a serious market.
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    To liquify your innards.

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    Default Re: What's the point in big 100 watt heads?

    Even at low volume where nothing is cooking at all (other than the preamp gain) and within the same exact amp, IMO the leads tones are slightly better at 50w vs 100w.
    (pull a pair of tubes vs running all four, or using half-power if equipped)

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    Default Re: What's the point in big 100 watt heads?

    Ever been on a stage next to a maple DW kit, in a venue that has over 1200 audience members? 100W is about right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MetalManiac View Post
    LMAO!!!!
    Believe me when I say that some of the most amazing music in history was made on equipment that's not as good as what you own right now.

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    Default Re: What's the point in big 100 watt heads?

    Some Dude said it well.. IMO there didnt used to be smaller amps that had the tone of a good cooking tube amp. Yes, 100 w can be overkill for home use. But when I get to crank up my Splawn, its glorious!!

    It does have a 1/2power switch on it, but it doesnt have the same low end thump.
    Believe me when I say that some of the most amazing music in history was made on equipment that's not as good as what you own right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Empty Pockets View Post
    What's the point of a fast car? A delicious meal? A sunset at the beach? A finely-crafted beer?

    What's the point of your favorite song? Your fondest memories? Your darkest fantasies?

    The point is you ENJOY them.
    Well, a fast car you won't enjoy any more than a family car if all you ever do is puddle down to the shops.......well actually you will like it less because its so damn uncomfortable with the stiff suspension over the typical suburban crappy roads.
    Large amps typically have a threshhold for enjoyment......especially if you are the sort of person who finds the fizzy low volume tone awful

    A good meal or beer or sunset etc doesn't have a threshhold for enjoyment.

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    Default Re: What's the point in big 100 watt heads?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gearjoneser View Post
    Ever been on a stage next to a maple DW kit, in a venue that has over 1200 audience members? 100W is about right.
    No, its still less. Without a PA, forget getting clean cleans with a 100W on that stage.

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    Default Re: What's the point in big 100 watt heads?

    Headroom. I bought my 100 watt amp 30 years ago because I wanted big chunk and a hard, tight crunch with a ton of headroom. No mush.
    But I could probably get along fine with a 50 watter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gearjoneser View Post
    Ever been on a stage next to a maple DW kit, in a venue that has over 1200 audience members? 100W is about right.
    I played with a very hard hitting drummer and his kit was a Yamaha Maple Custom. I have to agree with that statement. Besides 100 watt amps are not like 10 times louder than a cranked up small amp anyway. A 50 watt amp is only about twice as loud as a 5 watt amp, and 100 watts is only 3db louder than 50 watts, although 3db is noticeable.

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    Default Re: What's the point in big 100 watt heads?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lake Placid Blues View Post
    I played with a very hard hitting drummer and his kit was a Yamaha Maple Custom. I have to agree with that statement. Besides 100 watt amps are not like 10 times louder than a cranked up small amp anyway. A 50 watt amp is only about twice as loud as a 5 watt amp, and 100 watts is only 3db louder than 50 watts, although 3db is noticeable.
    Well said.....I do enjoy my 120 watt Triple XXX head and my 50 watt EVH 3 head,even at lower volumes,,the low end is awesome with the palm muting!

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    I'm on my second 100W tube Marshall head. Whenever I've been looking for a Marshall sound, I just keep running into great deals on full-featured, top-of-the-line modern amps. Who am I to turn down something like that?
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