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    Default 59 & JB too bright in Mahogany Warmoth...

    I have a Mahogany body & neck Warmoth Tele 2xhum, with a 59 neck & JB bridge and the guitar is overly bright sounding. Any replacement ideas for your basic blues & rock tones? Thanks.

    Steve

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    Seymour uses 250K volume and tone pots in his Tele with the Jazz neck and JB bridge. If your volume and tone pots are 500K you might like 250K better. The 250K value will allow some highs to bleed through the pots even when they are "10" and go to ground, thus removing some of the edge to the treble. I much prefer 500K...but we all need differant set ups to make us feel comfortable. Lew

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    Default Re: 59 & JB too bright in Mahogany Warmoth...

    To accent what Lew just said, I run 250k pots in all my guitars. I just prefer the slightly "smoother" character.

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    I'm using a 250k pot in my mahogany Warmoth with Blues S. / 59 model pickups. A lot of people don't like 250k with humbuckers. As lew pointed out they find something lacking in them. Personally I feel every instrument is unique and as such you need to tune the components to get the best out of each. I find that I tend to prefer 250k in bolt on instruments and 500k in mahogoany set neck instruments with the same model of pickup for example but I have exceptions as well.

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    If it is problem to decide, try a TBX-pot. It´s a stacked pot, which on 5 is 250k. On 10 it is 1 meg, so somewhere around 7 it would make some 500k. I have it in a Strat with H-S-S and change the TBX-pot from 5 to 7 only when I use the humbucker. Works fine for me, but I know some people don´t find it useful - the differences are too small in some guitars.

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    Default Re: 59 & JB too bright in Mahogany Warmoth...

    some ppl say a bolted on neck is much brighter than a set neck. maybe its your guitar, too. not that new pickups wont be different, but just maybe its the guitar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nepalnt21
    some ppl say a bolted on neck is much brighter than a set neck. maybe its your guitar, too. not that new pickups wont be different, but just maybe its the guitar.
    I don't think a bolt on is always brighter. But it might have less bass and less lower mids...depends on the guitar. That can make a guitar seem brighter. Lew

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    Default Re: 59 & JB too bright in Mahogany Warmoth...

    I love the Gibson 300k compromise - brighter than 250, yet warmer than 500k. I use 500k in the neck and 300k in the bridge. I would expect my maple cap Pauls are both bassier and brighter than the all Mahog tele.

    And, of course, don't forget the treble knob on the amp....

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    Default Re: 59 & JB too bright in Mahogany Warmoth...

    Quote Originally Posted by Aceman
    I love the Gibson 300k compromise - brighter than 250, yet warmer than 500k. I use 500k in the neck and 300k in the bridge. I would expect my maple cap Pauls are both bassier and brighter than the all Mahog tele.

    And, of course, don't forget the treble knob on the amp....
    yeah... My 59/JB set on my all mahogany guitar it isn't specially bright. I would say it's wide open with lot's of middy frecuencies.
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    Default Re: 59 & JB too bright in Mahogany Warmoth...

    Quote Originally Posted by telest
    I have a Mahogany body & neck Warmoth Tele 2xhum, with a 59 neck & JB bridge and the guitar is overly bright sounding. Any replacement ideas for your basic blues & rock tones? Thanks.

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    Default Re: 59 & JB too bright in Mahogany Warmoth...

    looks like you fellas have it under control. Just to reiterate, go with a 250k pot. Or if you really wanna change the pup, go with a Custom 5, awesome pickup, not quite as bright as the JB.
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    Default Re: 59 & JB too bright in Mahogany Warmoth...

    Quote Originally Posted by telest
    I have a Mahogany body & neck Warmoth Tele 2xhum, with a 59 neck & JB bridge and the guitar is overly bright sounding. Any replacement ideas for your basic blues & rock tones? Thanks.

    Steve
    I have an alder Kramer with a JB (250k volume pot) that I found to be too bright. So, when I built my first Warmoth strat (shown in avator), I went with a mahogany body and a Custom in the bridge. The Custom sounds a lot thicker than the JB, but still has plenty of harmonics.

    Alternatively, you could try a Custom Custom, but that might be too thick for an all mahogany guitar. For a lower output pickup, a Seth might be a nice option.
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