Guitar Styles: The Cure, Love & Rockets, etc.

[Closed Eye]

Would Placebo fit into this category? Or is that more electronica-rockish type stuff?

I mean, I love Placebo, but they certainly don't do any of that regular rock guitar stuff. It's more like another color in the palatte than anything else...

[saladin]

Here's a little Joy Division, actually it's my band Eat The Evidence. We recorded this a couple of days ago. http://www.soundclick.com/util/getpl...d=3236631&q=hi
I used my '62 Strat copy that I put together but now has a 59b and PGn instead of the single coils I had originally put in it. Played thru a Carvin XV-212 into a 2-15 Dual Showman cab with a Boss DD-3 in the loop.

[viewaskew2k5]

I can play atleast one song off every cure album off the top of my head. Mind you, they are about the ONLY songs i can play off the top of my head hehehe :P
( sorry album joke )

[jonnymangia]

I’m originally a speed metal guitar player who quite some years ago became absolutely enamored with Depeche Mode and regardless of my background and the fact that I still love all that stuff I was (and still am) into, Depeche Mode is my favorite band and I can tell that they always will be. No question. Their Violator album literally changed my life years ago.

And Martin Gore is seriously a song writing force to be reckoned with. He’s an amazing, underrated guitar player in this genre and what a lot of people don’t notice is that a lot of the synth sounds in many of Depeche Mode’s songs are actually Gore on guitar. I think he’s absolutely amazing just in the way he uses guitar as embellishment, or when it’s the main riff of the song. Songs Of Faith And Devotion; that whole album has a very live and ambient sound to it.

Now you guys have got me started! I, too, didn’t know that there were any of “you” out there into this stuff!

Just got the new Depeche Mode album. It's their best since Violater.

[jonnymangia]

Here's a little Joy Division, actually it's my band Eat The Evidence. We recorded this a couple of days ago. http://www.soundclick.com/util/getpl...d=3236631&q=hi
I used my '62 Strat copy that I put together but now has a 59b and PGn instead of the single coils I had originally put in it. Played thru a Carvin XV-212 into a 2-15 Dual Showman cab with a Boss DD-3 in the loop.

Nice job. What's the chord progression on this?

[dani]

i love the cure but sadly, never heard anything by daniel ash. any recommendations?

[jonnymangia]

i love the cure but sadly, never heard anything by daniel ash. any recommendations?

Love and Rockets "Express"
Love and Rockets "Earth Sun and Moon"
Tones on Tail "Everything"
Bauhaus - just about anything

Those are all from the 1980's. IN the 90's Love and Rockets started to incorporate alot of electronica into their sound.

[dani]

Love and Rockets "Express"
Love and Rockets "Earth Sun and Moon"
Tones on Tail "Everything"
Bauhaus - just about anything

Those are all from the 1980's. IN the 90's Love and Rockets started to incorporate alot of electronica into their sound.

thanks bro! gonna check them out.

[dani]

btw, i consider disintegration and pornography as the epitome of the cure's musical history. any of daniel ash's stuff sound similar?

[jonnymangia]

"Pornography" is an amazing piece of work.

Ash and Robert Smith are different. Ash's sound isn't as clean and discernible...he uses alot of effects. His sound (at times) is very industrial and cold, almost alien. It's very cool. Check out "Express" and "Earth Sun Moon". You'll dig them big time.

[saladin]

The progression for New Dawn Fades is E-D-C-A, very easy, but it is one of my favorite songs!

[idsnowdog]

Nobody even mentioned Johnny Mar! His playing boggles the mind. Also the guitarists for Morrisey are very talented with perfect tone. I also love The Church and James.

Snowdog

[jonnymangia]

Nobody even mentioned Johnny Mar! His playing boggles the mind. Also the guitarists for Morrisey are very talented with perfect tone. I also love The Church and James.

Snowdog

Johnny Marr is amazing (especially 'cause he plays SG's now!). A great, great pop songwriter/guitarist. How about the riff on "How Soon is Now"? So original and so cool. I had "Starfish" by the Church and really dug that CD. Very mellow.

BTW - anyone who is considering checking out Love and Rockets should cruise over to Amazon and check out the user reviews of "Express" and "Earth Sun Moon". I you don't buy them then, you never will!!

[Sludgenutz]

I absolutely love the guitar work of Gang of Four's Andy Gill "Entertainment" and "Solid Gold".

Damn, all the people I ever knew/partied-with liked the Pistol's "God Save the Queen" and VH's "Eruption". The pinheads in suits will never understand this, nor would the poofy arrogant jerks in the musical gear shops of the late 1970's/1980's.

Listen to what moves you. That is rule NUMBER 1!

[eric22rr]

I’m originally a speed metal guitar player who quite some years ago became absolutely enamored with Depeche Mode and regardless of my background and the fact that I still love all that stuff I was (and still am) into, Depeche Mode is my favorite band and I can tell that they always will be. No question. Their Violator album literally changed my life years ago.

And Martin Gore is seriously a song writing force to be reckoned with. He’s an amazing, underrated guitar player in this genre and what a lot of people don’t notice is that a lot of the synth sounds in many of Depeche Mode’s songs are actually Gore on guitar. I think he’s absolutely amazing just in the way he uses guitar as embellishment, or when it’s the main riff of the song. Songs Of Faith And Devotion; that whole album has a very live and ambient sound to it.

Now you guys have got me started! I, too, didn’t know that there were any of “you” out there into this stuff!

That's awesome! I didnt realize there were this many of us.

I agree completely about martin gore... his secret is bringing out some of the best elements of the blues, but keeps in subtle... have you heard the new DM album? amazing. He's accomplished exactly what i was talking about in an earlier comment, about serving the song. i just saw them a few weeks ago and was completely blown away. i didn't realize this before the show, but he does A LOT of fingerpicking!

[eric22rr]

Here's a little Joy Division, actually it's my band Eat The Evidence. We recorded this a couple of days ago. http://www.soundclick.com/util/getpl...d=3236631&q=hi
I used my '62 Strat copy that I put together but now has a 59b and PGn instead of the single coils I had originally put in it. Played thru a Carvin XV-212 into a 2-15 Dual Showman cab with a Boss DD-3 in the loop.

do you have this available in another format? the player isnt working for me and i'd love to hear it.

[BoomBoomChild]

That's awesome! I didnt realize there were this many of us.

I agree completely about martin gore... his secret is bringing out some of the best elements of the blues, but keeps in subtle... have you heard the new DM album? amazing. He's accomplished exactly what i was talking about in an earlier comment, about serving the song. i just saw them a few weeks ago and was completely blown away. i didn't realize this before the show, but he does A LOT of fingerpicking!

Have you heard of Machines Of Loving Grace? They were from Tuscan, AZ. Their sound was a sound that was happening in that area around that time (early 90’s). There is a documentary called “High and Dry: 20 Years of Tucson Music” about them and other bands in that area at that time. I’m quite enamored with them as well.

Here in Seattle, at the Key Arena in ’98, I had front row seats to Depeche Mode and Stabbing Westward (my second favorite band) who opened for DM. It was Depeche Mode’s Singles tour. Both bands were simply amazing and I highly doubt I’ll ever go to a concert that tops that – simply because, who ever gets to see their two favorite bands play in one night - AND up close? Gore is a guitar player who understands that sometimes less is more. Ever since Violator I’ve gotten all of their albums and stayed on top of anything new. My favorite is Songs Of Faith And Devotion and Ultra (as a guitar player, I love the grittiness of that album)

Anyway, I feel like I’m jacking the thread a little, and if I am then sorry jonnymangia. I’ll take something and calm down. But again I’ll say that I’m glad you started this thread and to see other like minds out there. Lets not let this thread be the end of this.

[Skarekrough]

Have you heard of Machines Of Loving Grace? They were from Tuscan, AZ. Their sound was a sound that was happening in that area around that time (early 90’s). There is a documentary called “High and Dry: 20 Years of Tucson Music” about them and other bands in that area at that time. I’m quite enamored with them as well.

MOLG rule. I picked up Concentration on a fluke and it totally knocked me out. I listened to it for years thinking it was the only one they'd done and then I came across the first release and I became obsessive about that one. Managed to find the third (Gilt) but just haven't cozied up to it the same way I have the other two.

BTW....there needs to be WAY more talk of Bauhaus!

[idsnowdog]

Catherine Wheel's first two albums were mind blowing. Tough, pretty, trippy, and sensitive.

Nudeswirl. Well their Nudeswirl and thats a lot. True entrancing oddball guitar excess.

Fig Dish. Oddball riffs, catchy songs and goofy lyrics.

Gas Huffer. Oddball, catchy, bizarre lyrics, very funny.

Snowdog

[jonnymangia]

Anyway, I feel like I’m jacking the thread a little, and if I am then sorry jonnymangia. I’ll take something and calm down. But again I’ll say that I’m glad you started this thread and to see other like minds out there. Lets not let this thread be the end of this.

I'm pretty psyched that I started this thread as well
I thought this forum was all about talking Clapton, Pagey, SRV et al - I love those guys (Pagey has had a big influence on alot of the guys we're discussing)
but there is more out there in the world of guitars. Keep the thread alive!
Jonny